Director James Fox’s explosive new documentary is being hailed as the most persuasive and revealing film ever made about UFOs. The film includes never-before-seen testimony from high-ranking government and military officials, NASA Astronauts, and Senator Harry Reid.   

Dr. Jacques Vallee says this about The Phenomenon: “Seventy years of secrecy has led to this. The most credible documentary ever made about UFOs.” 

In this show, James talks about the challenges and hopes in creating a film of such magnitude, and he shares some fascinating stories about the production, as well as what didn’t make it in the film.

James addressed the 1994 Ariel School sighting in Zimbabwe Africa and the reason that his film ends with that remarkable story. One of the students involved in the event, Emily Trim, recently spoke with Stuart Davis’s on his podcast, Artists and Aliens. Her testimony adds a new depth to what was shown in the film, and a much richer story emerges. This interview is highly recommended and is linked HERE

To see The Phenomenon, click HERE. NOTE: Some streaming platforms have lots of extra footage from this important film!

Whitley is also interviewing James Dreamland, coming on Friday.

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  1. Whatever happened to Randall Nickerson’s documentary about the the Ariel School itself? Did it get rolled into this project instead of being a stand alone film?

  2. Hi Mike, I am a subscriber and logged in, but getting the commercials listening to the James Fox interview.

    1. Author

      Ooops, I will clean this up ASAP…

      Sorry about that,

    2. I also was getting the commercials though I am a logged in subscriber. Wonderful show, as usual.

  3. Author

    The files are now correct! No commercials for members! Sorry, I messed up while I was loading the files onto the site. It’s an easy mistake (one I have made before).

    All done! Sorry for the mix-up…

  4. Hahaha leave it to you Mike in catching the “cold feet”
    reference! Clever man that you are not much gets by you anymore. Great interview!

  5. Very cool landing James Fox for the show Mike! Just an absolute killer of a film! Thanks!!

  6. I enjoy your PODCASTS. I thought I should just tell you that. I listen and re-listen often. Thank you.

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