Mac Tonnies was one of the few clear-headed thinkers in ufology. He passed away far too young, at age 34, in 2009. In this episode of The Experience, we listen back to an interview Mac guested for Jeremy Vaeni’s first podcast, Culture of Contact. Then, subscribers will hear the UFO encounter that was as amazing as it was outlandish and morbid, involving Jeremy and Jeff Ritzmann, with nods to the recently deceased and, incidentally, Whitley Strieber, as it first appeared on an episode of Paratopia in 2012.
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