Marlene Seven Bremner joins us for the first time, bringing with her truly astonishing knowledge of the hidden secrets of spiritual alchemy and how understanding and using them can change our lives and prepare us for the little-understood reality of what happens after death. Seven’s book, Hermetic Philosophy and Creative Alchemy is one of the most powerful and clearest discussions of this notoriously difficult written in modern times, and in this interview she describes the inner truth and power of the alchemical journey of life with great clarity.

For anybody wanting to understand the journey of the soul and make their own truly meaningful, this show is a must listen and this book is a must read. Seven is also a brilliant artist, and her modern take on alchemical art is extremely powerful and meaningful. Be sure to explore it on her website, as it offers vivid nonverbal connection to deep alchemical concepts.

The book goes much deeper than any interview ever could, of course, and offers an understandable path of self-initiation into the traditionally solitary  spiritual journey of alchemy. Whitley, who has been on such an inner path for his entire adult life says “this is a real introduction to alchemy, written by an accomplished master. It offers the searcher a serious and useful foundation for further study of this powerful craft. A lifetime in alchemy will indeed transform base metal into gold, in the laboratory of your own being.”

Visit Seven on her website, To view the Transfiguration of Thoth discussed in the show, click here. If you want to start on the journey of alchemy, you must get Hermetic Philosophy and Creative Alchemy. Click here to order through us.

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    1. I think Andy was just celebrating Pole position. I do the same when I beat my siblings to phone our Mother each day.

  1. I’m not sure that I understood correctly the part where Whitley says: “she is wandering under her own star” (speaking of the guest of the show). This is supposed to be an answer to a question, but to whom did Whitley ask the question?

  2. “Wandering under her own star”….
    The word,’planet’, is from the ancient Greek word for planet, ‘wandering star’.

    That would be…Earth. Although Seven is deeply embedded in alchemy (as many of us are), we need to take a step back and remember the “As above, so below” which is very much about Heaven on Earth, and Earth as our home in the physical while the essence of ourselves has the capability to occupy…both. Heaven and Earth are one, but it is difficult to be aware of that with all the distractions. Thus the need for quiet, something that many have not experienced. Worse yet, there is fear of the very quiet that is so needed in many, and they are addicted to the distractions as a result.

    One of the things I try to do before I listen to any ‘Dreamland’ interview is to learn what I can about the guest before listening to the show. This morning I went to Seven’s website and was blown away! Her art is beautiful, and so spot on—I immediately knew that she ‘gets it’—REALLY gets it.

  3. Beautiful show. Thank you so much for introducing us to Seven Bremner. She is refreshing and delightful, and her artwork is deeply moving. Watching and listening to your dialogue was a high point in my week, and a terrific way to start off the new calendar year. Happy New Year to you both!

  4. Superb in every aspect. Definitely will repeat view this one. Grateful for you and your guest’s wisdom sharing.

  5. What a deep & rich soul this young woman is! Seven can apply some of the most complicated of alchemical practice and lay it out in a manner that many more can understand. Oh yes, Seven has been doing this for more than one lifetime, certainly! Thank you, thank you for finding her and creating this presentation to shine on a light on these mysteries.

  6. In the interview you said you would post a pic of one of her paintings, but i don’t see it here anywhere… oh, nevermind, i now found the link you made for it… thanks.

  7. Oh, wow, Oly, WA! I wonder if she was still there in 2008-2009 CE when i lived there!

  8. Excellent Show.
    I am not versed in Alchemy, but it seems to embody several older traditions. There was most likely a lot of transmitted spiritual information from India which had to be encoded to avoid persecution over the centuries in Europe. The predominance of Trika Shaivism wisdom, for example, which around 1000 AD was predominant in all of India, Tibet, South Asia, and parts of China obviously influenced Alchemical thinking. Great to see new synthesis and ongoing living tradition.

  9. Marlene Seven Bremner. WONDERFUL interview, thank you. For me, Hermes Trismegistus is a guardian for humankind. My hero……..

  10. This was an excellent show! Thank you for discussing the subject of Alchemy.

  11. This is why I am a subscriber. There are so many interesting interviews on this website, and then there are brilliant jewels like this one!

    Whitley, is it possible to share this with a couple non-subscriber friends? Seeing her face makes a difference!

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    you can download it if you were certainly. I think there are absolutely enable you to download YouTube videos. But it might be easier to just send them a link to the free version. To see that, log out and then go back to my YouTube channel

  13. Thanks to Seven for her insight in the Subscriber Q&A on “past lives” . I believe she might well be spot on!

  14. It now makes total sense why the european Baha’i House of Worship is next to Frankfurt! Here’s Bahá’u’lláh’s (the Glory of the Unknowable Essence’s) take on the subject of Alchemy: “It is evident that nothing short of this mystic transformation could cause such spirit and behaviour, so utterly unlike their previous habits and manners, to be made manifest in the world of being. For their agitation was turned into peace, their doubt into certitude, their timidity into courage. Such is the potency of the Divine Elixir, which, swift as the twinkling of an eye, transmuteth the souls of men!
    For instance, consider the substance of copper. Were it to be protected in its own mine from becoming solidified, it would, within the space of seventy years, attain to the state of gold. There are some, however, who maintain that copper itself is gold, which by becoming solidified is in a diseased condition, and hath not therefore reached its own state.
    Be that as it may, the real elixir will, in one instant, cause the substance of copper to attain the state of gold, and will traverse the seventy-year stages in a single moment. Could this gold be called copper? Could it be claimed that it hath not attained the state of gold, whilst the touch-stone is at hand to assay it and distinguish it from copper?
    Likewise, these souls, through the potency of the Divine Elixir, traverse, in the twinkling of an eye, the world of dust and advance into the realm of holiness; and with one step cover the earth of limitations and reach the domain of the Placeless. It behooveth thee to exert thine utmost to attain unto this Elixir which, in one fleeting breath, causeth the west of ignorance to reach the east of knowledge, illuminates the darkness of night with the resplendence of the morn, guideth the wanderer in the wilderness of doubt to the well-spring of the Divine Presence and Fount of certitude, and conferreth upon mortal souls the honour of acceptance into the Ridván of immortality. Now, could this gold be thought to be copper, these people could likewise be thought to be the same as before they were endowed with faith.
    O brother, behold how the inner mysteries of “rebirth,” of “return,” and of “resurrection” have each, through these all-sufficing, these unanswerable, and conclusive utterances, been unveiled and unravelled before thine eyes. God grant that through His gracious and invisible assistance, thou mayest divest thy body and soul of the old garment, and array thyself with the new and imperishable attire” (Bahá’u’lláh, the Book of Certitude/Kitab-i-Iqan, 157-158).

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