Duann Kier was writing a novel about the divine feminine. She got up to make a visit to the bathroom and found herself staggered by the overwhelming appearance of a group of psychic guides. They had some work for her, and her book, and this show, are part of that work.

While Anne Strieber was not one of those guides, she certainly agrees with their approach, because she got Duann in touch with Whitley. She also, for the first time, participates actively throughout the show, channeling both through Whitley AND through Duann. She is, effectively, co-hosting with Whitley and is present in the show from beginning to end, making this probably the first podcasts where the co-hosts are sharing the same body. She channels directly with Duann at a number of points in the show, including one sequence involving sacred geometry and mathematics that revolutionizes Whitley’s entire understanding of the new book he is writing about the Jesus teaching.

We learn in this show about a new vision for the future of our relationship with the divine. As the divine feminine returns, the divine masculine will give way to the new energy, but we will not simply return to the old matriarchy that preceded the current patriarchy. According to Anne, there will now be an entirely new level of balance, with maleness surrendering to its own inner feminine and the female connecting with its own inner masculine. Duann’s life and book are about finding this balance, seen as a process of enabling men to give up the violence of patriarchy and open themselves to the softness within, and enabling women to stand up and take a role as the leaders of equals in the human journey.

A lot of the material channeled from Anne is profoundly enlightening and makes a wonderful addition to the great wisdom that Duann has gained, and has brought to her book and to this show. (And Whitley does a good job, too!)

Duann is a psychic channeler, a hypnotist, ordained minister, spiritual teacher and performer of sacred ceremonies. You can connect with her on her website, DuannKier.com.

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As this is a first, we are adding a specific note here, that this edition of Dreamland was produced by Anne Strieber.

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  1. It seems to me that a huge block to progress is consensus reality…but breaking through that conditioning isn’t easy. The first book I read about remote viewing introduced me to that concept, wherein the author was adament that even though the block is real, it can be dissolved by regular intention…beyond which, the seemingly impossible becomes possible.

    1. Great comment Sherbert.

      I literally get frightened of people and their blind belief in the mainstream consensus reality. I mean sometimes I feel like the only reason we don’t see witch trials or the inquisition again is because of our laws.

      I feel this is why some organizations keep their beliefs secret. Never reveal, always conceal. It’s a matter of survival, maybe

        1. What I meant to say was, that if a large enough group were to be trained how to ignore consensus reality, would the 100th Monkey Effect kick in for everyone?

  2. Brilliant, heartfelt, fun, and so necessary! My Goddess. What a show. Thank you so much Duann, Whitley, and Anne. Bravo!

    1. (And I’m getting a little more hopeful now about that channeled show with Michael Newton.

      Thanks, Anne. That was especially brilliant. 😉 )

  3. It might have been Mark Twain (don’t remember for sure) but someone once said something like this:
    “If I were God, and hearing all the things people say about Me believed them, I would become an atheist Myself.”

  4. Without a mother God as a human would not have been born into this world.
    And the good news is that also we can be the mother of God in this world, regardless of our human gender :
    “While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him.
    Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”
    He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?”
    Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
    ~Matthew 12:46-50
    Doing the will of the Father is believing in Him whom He send. In our case in the human appearance of each one of us.
    Thus also we may do the work of God, in the believe it is God doing the work of believing in Himself that He is God as each one of us when we believe God is Who we are in truth. Thus God elevates and unites our soul to Himself to become His holy Mother giving birth to Him in us while still appearing as humans in this world.
    “Then said they unto Him, “What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?”
    Jesus answered and said unto them, “This is the work of God: that ye believe in Him whom He hath sent.”.”
    ~John 6:28-29
    At one point in that elevation of consciousness we are neither men nor women, but experiencing being children of God:
    “And Jesus answering said unto them, “The children of this world marry and are given in marriage.
    But they that shall be accounted worthy to obtain that World and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage,
    neither can they die any more; for they are equal unto the angels and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
    ~Luke 20:34-36
    For as long as we don’t experience being God Who is our Self and Life, we don’t yet experience our real life. Instead we still experiencing a spiritual death.

  5. Correction:
    “Instead we still experience a spiritual death.”
    And God is indeed not a being somewhere out there, separate from us, but so one with us that it is God Who is experiencing all we experience, as each one of us. Including all we think and feel.
    It is God reading this now in human appearance.

  6. Last one God willing:
    Because it is a spiritual birth it has been called “virginal.” Reason the symbol for this -Mary- is said to still be a virgin. It is the spiritual birth of God in us while we still appear as a human. So God is born in us as a human.
    “Mary” means “Star of the Sea.” As an individuated point of light in the ocean of light. As our abstract point of “I” or “I Am.”
    That point of light is like a light beacon drawing us to our Self and our Home Haven.
    In the mean time what a delight to hear two and even three gathered through whom the Divine speaks. One of them in union with the others showing us through them we are eternal…

  7. Sorry, one more. As a small addition to the wise things said and insights already said during the meeting of the three souls in the interview:
    Mary called Joseph “your father” when speaking to Jesus when their young Son had gone teach the scribes in the temple.
    “And all who heard Him were astonished at His understanding and answers.
    And when they saw Him they were amazed, and His mother said unto Him, “Son, why hast Thou thus dealt with us? Behold, Thy father and I have sought Thee sorrowing.”
    ~Luke 2:47-48
    St. Augustine explained it here:
    Jesus also called the understanding or mind -the intellect- the “husband” of the Samaritan women. Thus saying that the Intellect of the soul is her husband.
    St. Augustine here paragraph 19:
    It is all parables of the spiritual reality, to be understood spiritually, not carnally or in the materialistic literal sense. It’s not about history but about the truth now as it relates to us.
    About not getting out of here but about bringing more light in here:
    “ET 101”

  8. Author

    We had a great chat with Duann just now in the video space. It’ll be posted for subscribers this afternoon.

    1. She was a delight to have for the video chat! I just dug her presence and now want to ask her questions that didn’t pop into my head until later on.

  9. The great thing about the Bahá’í Faith is that it has no clergy or dogma, being only 177 years old. Also one of its main principles is the Equality of women and men which means not just equal rights in life and work but also the equal balance of the male and female energies within each individual, like the Ying/Yang symbol from Taoism.

  10. I’m following a course given in Dutch and this months practice is looking at portraits -photos, paintings and videos , and also people we see on the street and wherever else and think:
    “You love me unconditionally.”
    Even if as egos that might seem not to be so. “Back Stage” we all respect and love each other greatly.

  11. Thank you Duann for expressing insights in this show that I feel are integral to us moving forward in our journey to becoming divine humans.

    It was refreshing to hear you speak of linear lives instead of reincarnational ones: there is empowerment for us in the now with the linear understanding that the reincarnational in the past does not afford us.

    I also appreciated hearing someone talk of exploring our divine selves and spirituality in terms that are not tied up in our being dissolved as individuals as we evolve. The dreary notion that “we are all one, and we are returning to the one” is a yoke of monotheism that I ditched when I was a kid. It intellectually felt wrong and i have since discovered spiritually that I was correct.

    Whitley – I do not believe that at the time Anne returned and told you that the divine is mathematical you believed that god was an old man with a beard. It is the only time I have not believed something you have said.

    Please have Duann on again and explore more ideas about what our evolving souls may be. Your questions, Anne’s contribution and her insights made for a really good show.

  12. Windows Into Eternity: Revelations of the Mother Goddess
    Almine 2009 (Spiritual Journeys, LLC)
    ISBN 978-1-934070-24-6

    1. i think she is trying to describe humans becoming god beings in the flesh.

  13. Great and synchronous show! Thank you!

    Whitley, you latest live youtube (I missed it live this time) is POWERFUL.

    The tones in your voice were pure bliss.

  14. Lovely interview..the distracting ‘ums’ will decrease as the guest gives more interviews, including constructive critiques.
    OAN, consider, Whitley, reversing the order of comments to descending chronological order– the most recent appears first.

  15. I loved this interview! I listened to it a number of times.
    Would love a part 2 sometime soon.
    Thank you Duann, Whitley, and Anne.
    “Picture yourself as a geometric form.” It is true. Just like the tarot path is you. Our egos lie to us. The kingdom of Heaven is within each of us all, without exception.

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