Dreamland is on hiatus for the 4th of July weekend. After a lovely introduction from Whitley, we offer his’s 2007 interview with Shirley MacLaine, followed by an eerily prophetic report from Linda Moulton Howe about what became known as the breakaway civilization. But does it exist? The jury is still out!

Don’t miss Communion, now with a new introduction from Whitley PLUS, an unabridged audio version read by him–and it is so powerful that, even if you have read the book, get this audio. The emotional impact of his voice is just plain unforgettable.

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  1. What a great montage of archive interviews. Thank you. Shirley MacLain is always a treat and Linda Moulton Howe is iconic in the field. At your recommendation, I’m reading The Day After Roswell and it fits in with what Linda was saying about the secret space program.

    At this point, I’m willing to forgive all transgressions if our government will just step up, reveal at least the core information that will allow humanity to grow up, and actually participate in the idea that a democratic nation is made up of a community of people. Then again, what comes first, the chicken or the egg? When we the people collectively grow up and mature spiritually, the secrecy will no longer be sustainable because we won’t stand for it.

    What are your thoughts?

  2. I really enjoyed this. It sounded like there was more to the Shirley interview though? Is the full thing available in the archive?

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    I think that this is all we have, but the archive is so huge, there could be more. If so, I will post it.

  4. I’ve just tried searching for more interviews but ‘Search’ is coming back with nothing on my Android phone, even for the most basic of searches, with or without a date.

  5. As a Brit, I’d like to wish everyone across the pond a very Happy 4th of July holiday. I understand that you all manage to make this quite a grand affair, with family get togethers, huge sporting events and the occasional parade. Anyway, have a terrific holiday and be good. Peace.

  6. I enjoyed this archive podcast immensely. I immediately retrieved the copy of Shirley MacLaine’s book, “Sage-ing While Age-ing”, out of my personal library and will read it again. As always, thanks Whitley for all you provide for us to stretch our imaginations and our awareness!

  7. Shirley MacLaine and Linda Moulton Howe. These are such good interviews and wonder if either Shirley or Linda have changed their minds about anything since these interviews? HELLO SHIRLEY, if you are listening and as always, great job Linda.

    It’s Not Where You Start (Live) – YouTube

  8. A quote from a book published in 1993 by a former spy of the MI6 named Dr John Coleman.

    “At least 4 billion “useless eaters” shall be eliminated by the year 2050 by means of limited wars, organized epidemics of fatal rapid-acting diseases and starvation. Energy, food and water shall be kept at subsistence levels for the non-elite, starting with the White populations of Western Europe and North America and then spreading to other races.

    The population of Canada, Western Europe and the United States will be decimated more rapidly than on other continents, until the world’s population reaches a manageable level of 1 billion, of which 500 million will consist of Chinese and Japanese races, selected because they are people who have been regimented for centuries and who are accustomed to obeying authority without question.”

  9. I met her back in the 90s When I was the volunteer campground host at Chaco Canyon for a month, a very cold and windy month of April. I was staying in an old beat up forest service trailer because the campground host thing was new and I had showed up without an RV. Anyway she showed up with this guy who was supposed to be her guide but they couldn’t figure out which of the ruins was the great Kiva, the main one that they were looking for. So they saw me and asked and I told them. I had been doing quite a bit of hiking around and exploring and offer to show them some other things and to bring them in and out of the cold for a cup of tea. i’m not a big celebrity follower but I had enjoyed her book and like many people it was a catalyst for me back in the 80s so I was definitely interested in meeting her but not in a worshipful, fan girl type of way. Just more like, hey here’s some synchronicity, it’s really cold and windy. Let’s have a cup of tea and or let me show you around this place. She treated me like a person with leprosy by not even having eye contact and her guide brush me off and they were on their way. That was obviously disappointing for me, not just because I was mostly alone out there and would’ve enjoyed the company for a minute, but because I had expected more of her as a human being. I found that in the interview she seemed to only be interested in connecting with high profile people as her “good friends.” And that seem to fit with my experience of being snubbed. Because I was definitely looking a little ratty around the edges and was a “nobody.” It did teach me a valuble life lesson though about being open to connection, information, and experiences. I enjoy the comment threads in these interviews more than the interviewees sometimes because you all have so much rich insight, experience, and information to bring to the table. Not to notice that and appreciate it is to miss out.

    1. “I enjoy the comment threads in these interviews more than the interviewees sometimes….”

      Your post is proof of that, and your/the comments have often led to me revisiting the interviews.

      Too bad she blew you off. Her loss I’m sure.

    2. Interesting. Shirley admits to her eccentricity. Her own daughter, Sachi Parker actually wrote a book about her absent mother. I’ve met Linda H. and she can be the same … a bit too self-important. However, I do appreciate their work and don’t want to trash them. Wow! The Reagan part of meeting aliens! I’d never heard that. I know he had sightings and mentioned off-planet beings in a United Nations speech but my gosh. Go watch Reagan on YouTube … he was an amazing person. The story kind of makes sense with what he did while president.

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    The first thing I learned when I started to work with the visitors is that they absolutely have no use for special treatment for anybody. All are equal, including them, and humility is essential. I would have welcomed your offer—and I am sure I would’ve had a great time.

    1. Whitley, I have just started listening to the Audiobook of ‘Communion’, after reading the book many years previously… and in Chapter 4, in one of the hypnosis transcripts, the main female Visitor tells you that “you are a chosen one”, which you thought of as ridiculous at the time. What do you think she meant by that? It certainly sounds like she was suggesting you are special in some way, or should see yourself as such.

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    I have had to face the fact that there is something I can do in this world that nobody else can do. This has been very hard.

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