U.S. Senator Marco Rubio has stated that whistleblower David Grusch is not the only individual to have come forward with testimony regarding UAP recovery and back-engineering programs being undertaken by elements within the U.S. government, but that the Senator and his colleagues have personally spoken to individuals with “very high clearances” that “have first-hand knowledge, or first-hand claims” of these illegally-run programs.

Speaking in an interview with NewsNation’s Joe Khalil, Senator Rubio said that “there are people that have come forward to share information with our committee over the last couple of years,” referring to the witness heard by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, of which Rubio is currently Vice Chair. He stated that as a group, they are “people that are both in the service of our government and some who used to serve in the past, and some of whom are publicly out there saying these things,” along with individuals that have, for various reasons, remained anonymous.

“I would imagine some of them are potentially some of the same people that [David Grusch is] referring to,” Rubio continued. He also stated that “A lot of these people came to us even before protections were in the law for whistleblowers to come forward.” The Senator also stated that these individuals had “first-hand knowledge, or first-hand claims” of these UAP recovery and research programs. “Some are public figures, and we’ve heard from them in the past; others have not shared publicly.”

When asked about whether or not he found the witnesses he personally spoke to be credible, Rubio replied “I don’t find them either not credible or credible,” and that it is important to understand that “some of these claims are things that are beyond the realm of what any of us has ever dealt with.

“What I think we owe them is just a mature understanding, listening and trying to put all these pieces together and just sort of intake the information without any prejudgment or jumping to any conclusions in one direction or another,” the Senator said.

Regarding the witnesses’ credentials, Rubio said that most of them either hold or at least had held “very high clearances, high positions within our government, so you do ask yourself what incentive would so many people with that kind of qualification—these are serious people—would have to come forward and make something up?”

Rubio is also taking the personal security of the witnesses very seriously. “I am trying to be protective of these people,” Rubio said.

“Some of these people still work in the government, and frankly a lot of them are very fearful, fearful of their jobs, fearful of their career, and some, frankly, are fearful of harm coming to them, and so I want to be very respectful of that, because I don’t want to discourage others from coming forward.”

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    1. Bear in mind that Coulthart didn’t say what country the (un)recovered craft is in; I suspect that the extremely visible Army building in South Korea is just someone putting that forward since it fits what little information Coulthart divulged.

      Basically, don’t get too attached to that location being *the* building Ross is talking about: it’s in the middle of Incheon, a city of nearly 3 million people; it’s only 270′ across, meaning any craft kept inside is probably only 250′, a size that could be transported; and it’s conveniently round, the last shape anyone would use when trying to conceal an immobile disk would make the enclosure.


      For those interested, you can take a cab right up to the front gate to go hiking:

      Google maps’ view of the building, note the airliner (quite probably a 138-foot Boeing 737) to the east for a sense of scale:

  1. David Grusch interview with Ross Coulthart was disappointing. Couldn’t get a straight answer; vague or not at all, flipping the questions to respond that he would like to know that. He had absolutely nothing to offer that isn’t readily available and easy to find. He’s the golden boy of disclosure right now but something is off. Disinformation? Can’t quite nail it. He’s slippery.

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