Judika Illes is an explorer in the world of spells and energies, and has great wisdom to offer about how to use the energies all around us to make our lives more productive and more true to our own aspirations. But she's also a sort of supernatural polymath in that she understands a great deal about the dark side, including the "safe" fear of things like horror stories and the "real" fear of facing the unknown.

About 15 minutes into the show one of those wonderful, mysterious Anne Strieber Moments takes place when she says in the context of the discussion "Having a body is not the only reason you're alive." Listen to find out why she said it and what it means.

Judika and Whitley explore the enjoyment of scary stories in safe circumstances, the go deeper into the true meaning of curses and the dark arts, and how to live a life in concert with the good energies that abound in the world, just waiting for us to notice and embrace what they have to offer.

Visit Judika at her website JudikaIlles.com. Judika offers metaphysical consultations. To learn more, click here.

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