For our subscribers Whitley Strieber asks Nick Redfern, "was Mars murdered" which begins a terrific discussion not only about Mars, but also about what Gary McKinnon found in NASA’s database, what Edgar Mitchell really knows, and the role that he and Gordon Cooper have played in encouraging disclosure. The photo included here is also discussed in the interview. It is of what appears to be a figure leaping off a rock on Mars, taken by one of the Mars Rovers. Could such a thing really be true? Listen and find out!