When in his final tweet as a presidential adviser, John Podesta said that he was disappointed that he had been unable to achieve release of still secret UFO files in 2014, the general media at first assumed that it was a joke. When his past record on the subject became clear and it was realized that he wasn’t joking, most outlets fell silent. The New York Times, the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal were all silent. And yet it’s major news when a man of Podesta’s stature, not to say his access to classified documents, says something like that.

The silence is telling. It comes because the major media has a seventy year long commitment to the idea that there are no aliens here and the whole subject is nonsense. Scientists and intellectuals, in general, take the same position. The general public, on the other hand, is either indifferent or mildly interested. Religious authorities, led by the Catholic Church, seem more able to face this possibility than those of us who are at the forefront of human exploration, as are scientists and intellectuals.

Years ago at the World Affairs Conference at the University of Colorado, I talked with astronaut Rusty Schweikart about this resistance. He said, "I guess I don’t want the way to Mars to be a well-worn path." I thought that, in those few words, he made an enormously important point. The people at the leading edge fear disempowerment. We are trying to find ourselves and our place in the universe, and our scientists and humanists are the ones making the discoveries and gaining the insights.

For example, NASA is just now beginning to think about the possibility of interstellar travel. What happens if that’s trumped and turns out to be a commonplace? Generations of exploration will never happen. And what of the mysteries of culture and being that are addressed in philosophy? What if there is a definitive answer to the fundamental philosophical question, ‘Why is there something rather than nothing?’

How can we bear to go from our present place in discovery to the end of it? If we come into contact, that could be something we must face.  Unless, of course, contact is not what it seems.

And, in fact, that might very well be the case. Not that aliens may not be involved, but rather that ‘alien’ is the wrong word to describe them. I think that a good beginning would be to discard the ‘us’ vs. ‘them’ assumption and start with a new one: we don’t know what they are, no more than we know what we are.

In this way we can replace what are already tired assumptions about ‘the alien’ with a new direction that is filled with wonder and rich with empowerment. Of course, we won’t do that, at least not initially. The media will rush to the conventional UFO investigators like Stanton Friedman and Leslie Kean, and possibly some officials like John Podesta and even some presently concealed ‘insiders.’ They will tell a story that, while it isn’t untrue, is also not the whole truth. A beginning, certainly, but also exactly the story that is going to leave mankind’s intellectual leading edge in a very difficult space, facing the very sort of disempowerment that could fatally blunt our culture’s exploratory sharpness.

This must not be and it need not be. This is because there is a larger, more important reality behind the conventional UFO stories. It is about the way we and the visitors are interpenetrated. It is about finding them in us and us in them. It is about discovering, for example, why it is that, during the abduction years, so many of us encountered our dead along with them. And how they communicate. (A thought: We might begin by by forgetting things like instructions and channeled material, unless there comes to be objective proof that any of it is real.)

What communication we have actually received seems to have been more by way of demonstration.  For example, in narrative after narrative, the visitors have identified themselves with the owl. And sure enough, if you study the owl, you will find a whole lot that seems to reflect the way the visitors act in our lives. It’s not simple, though. Deep, serious study of the species and of the close encounter narratives will reward one with useful insights about how they want us to see them, and, above all, the place they occupy in nature and the cosmos…and the one we occupy.

The truth is that the scientific and intellectual communities stand to gain the most by disclosure, but it is going to be crucial to at once look past the ‘alien vs. human’ assumptions and the UFO material, and into the real depths that will open within us and before us.

This will by no means disempower us. On the contrary, it will open useful opportunities to advance our sciences and deepen our cultures in ways that are just now coming into focus. We are going to be able to approach basic questions of science and philosophy in entirely new ways. Just knowing that we are in some way involved in this previously hidden inner and outer form of communication tempts us much more toward renaissance than decline.

We must see this for what it has the potential to be: a feast of newness and discovery. But we should not forget the owl, dangerous bird of the night.

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    1. Who represents more of a
      Who represents more of a threat—humans to each other, or aliens to humans? It may not be as bad as we imagine. Distrust is not such a noble trait. It indicates we are generally scared, and when one is scared one is uncooperative and may act irrationally and rashly.

      It’s God’s universe, at any rate. Do we see the glass as half empty, or full? If we shrink away, we may have to wait a very long time to learn what a relationship with an alien race may entail. Being paranoid and feeling disgust for an alien presence may primarily indicate our immaturity. As such, we are not ready to join the galactic federation.

      In the movie “Lucy” the main character says that ignorance, not knowledge, is usually responsible for chaos. If we suppress the truth long enough, how does it abuse us? The Greys are not the only alien race out there. If we admitted that many alien races were present on Earth, we would open relations with the good, the bad, and the ugly. We might gain valuable allies in the process.

    1. Who represents more of a
      Who represents more of a threat—humans to each other, or aliens to humans? It may not be as bad as we imagine. Distrust is not such a noble trait. It indicates we are generally scared, and when one is scared one is uncooperative and may act irrationally and rashly.

      It’s God’s universe, at any rate. Do we see the glass as half empty, or full? If we shrink away, we may have to wait a very long time to learn what a relationship with an alien race may entail. Being paranoid and feeling disgust for an alien presence may primarily indicate our immaturity. As such, we are not ready to join the galactic federation.

      In the movie “Lucy” the main character says that ignorance, not knowledge, is usually responsible for chaos. If we suppress the truth long enough, how does it abuse us? The Greys are not the only alien race out there. If we admitted that many alien races were present on Earth, we would open relations with the good, the bad, and the ugly. We might gain valuable allies in the process.

  1. There is an old proverb that
    There is an old proverb that goes…..NOTHING COMES BEFORE THE TIME; or something to that effect. Perhaps we as humankind are approaching that TIME for more to be revealed/unveiled.

    So, as I was getting ready to post this, an e-mail comes though and I want to include the website…..The March News…..

    http://carlos.emory.edu/

    Johannesburg-based artist Marcus Neustetter, whose work Chasing Light is featured in the exhibition African Cosmos.

    Marcus Neustetter: Artist-in-Residence
    Artist-in-Residence
    Marcus Nuestetter
    Monday, March 16 – Sunday, March 22 | Various locations and times

    Johannesburg-based artist Marcus Neustetter, whose work Chasing Light is featured in the exhibition African Cosmos: Stellar Arts, will be in residence giving talks about his work and creative process. Emory students and the public will have the opportunity to experience collaborative artmaking activities that use light as a medium, and are at once provocative, playful, and process-driven. Also known for designing large-scale public art projects, Neustetter creates delicate drawings based on our connectedness to nature. His fascination with the illusive qualities of light has led to technology-based installations, photography, and pen and ink drawings. Visit HERE for details about his public events for all ages.

    Pulitzer-Prize Winner Marilynne Robinson: a Creation Stories Conversation
    Marilynne Robinson and Erin Bonning
    A Creation Stories Conversation
    Tuesday, March 17 | 7:30 – 9:00 PM | Reception Hall, Level Three

    Pulitzer Prize-winning author of Housekeeping, Gilead, and Absence of Mind, Marilynne Robinson, and Emory astrophysicist Dr. Erin Bonning discuss the enduring power of creation stories and the ways in which science and religion both seek to illuminate our understanding of the place of human beings in the cosmos.

    The Museum Bookshop will have Robinsons’ books available for purchase both before and after the event.

    This program is made possible by the Emory College David Goldwasser Series in Religion and the Arts and co-sponsored by the Candler School of Theology. MORE

    AFRICAN COSMOS: STELLAR ARTS
    Exhibition
    African Cosmos: Stellar Arts
    January 31 – June 21, 2015 | Third Floor Galleries

    African Cosmos: Stellar Arts, organized by Smithsonian’s National Museum of African Art, is the first major exhibition exploring the historical legacy of African cultural astronomy and its intersection with traditional and contemporary African arts. Featuring more than seventy outstanding works of art from throughout the African continent, African Cosmos considers how the sun, moon, stars, and celestial phenomena such as lightning and rainbows have served as sources of inspiration in the creation of African art from ancient times to the present. MORE

  2. There is an old proverb that
    There is an old proverb that goes…..NOTHING COMES BEFORE THE TIME; or something to that effect. Perhaps we as humankind are approaching that TIME for more to be revealed/unveiled.

    So, as I was getting ready to post this, an e-mail comes though and I want to include the website…..The March News…..

    http://carlos.emory.edu/

    Johannesburg-based artist Marcus Neustetter, whose work Chasing Light is featured in the exhibition African Cosmos.

    Marcus Neustetter: Artist-in-Residence
    Artist-in-Residence
    Marcus Nuestetter
    Monday, March 16 – Sunday, March 22 | Various locations and times

    Johannesburg-based artist Marcus Neustetter, whose work Chasing Light is featured in the exhibition African Cosmos: Stellar Arts, will be in residence giving talks about his work and creative process. Emory students and the public will have the opportunity to experience collaborative artmaking activities that use light as a medium, and are at once provocative, playful, and process-driven. Also known for designing large-scale public art projects, Neustetter creates delicate drawings based on our connectedness to nature. His fascination with the illusive qualities of light has led to technology-based installations, photography, and pen and ink drawings. Visit HERE for details about his public events for all ages.

    Pulitzer-Prize Winner Marilynne Robinson: a Creation Stories Conversation
    Marilynne Robinson and Erin Bonning
    A Creation Stories Conversation
    Tuesday, March 17 | 7:30 – 9:00 PM | Reception Hall, Level Three

    Pulitzer Prize-winning author of Housekeeping, Gilead, and Absence of Mind, Marilynne Robinson, and Emory astrophysicist Dr. Erin Bonning discuss the enduring power of creation stories and the ways in which science and religion both seek to illuminate our understanding of the place of human beings in the cosmos.

    The Museum Bookshop will have Robinsons’ books available for purchase both before and after the event.

    This program is made possible by the Emory College David Goldwasser Series in Religion and the Arts and co-sponsored by the Candler School of Theology. MORE

    AFRICAN COSMOS: STELLAR ARTS
    Exhibition
    African Cosmos: Stellar Arts
    January 31 – June 21, 2015 | Third Floor Galleries

    African Cosmos: Stellar Arts, organized by Smithsonian’s National Museum of African Art, is the first major exhibition exploring the historical legacy of African cultural astronomy and its intersection with traditional and contemporary African arts. Featuring more than seventy outstanding works of art from throughout the African continent, African Cosmos considers how the sun, moon, stars, and celestial phenomena such as lightning and rainbows have served as sources of inspiration in the creation of African art from ancient times to the present. MORE

  3. Perhaps not everyone is ready
    Perhaps not everyone is ready for disclosure, but as a species we sure need it. Perhaps we’d realize the need to take better care of our own planet knowing that other intelligent beings have considered Earth to be very important, and likely extremely rare in its biological diversity in the cosmic scheme of things. At this point in our slide towards social and environmental collapse, perhaps the shock of public proof of non-human intelligence(s) is the only wild card that save us.

  4. Perhaps not everyone is ready
    Perhaps not everyone is ready for disclosure, but as a species we sure need it. Perhaps we’d realize the need to take better care of our own planet knowing that other intelligent beings have considered Earth to be very important, and likely extremely rare in its biological diversity in the cosmic scheme of things. At this point in our slide towards social and environmental collapse, perhaps the shock of public proof of non-human intelligence(s) is the only wild card that save us.

  5. SO WELL said Whitley….gawd,
    SO WELL said Whitley….gawd, I wish there were many more brilliant and articulate people like you presenting this type of dialogue out there!
    And Mark Archambault, very good add-on point to Whitley’s !

  6. SO WELL said Whitley….gawd,
    SO WELL said Whitley….gawd, I wish there were many more brilliant and articulate people like you presenting this type of dialogue out there!
    And Mark Archambault, very good add-on point to Whitley’s !

  7. What are they is my question.
    What are they is my question. It’s not at all obvious that they’re aliens in the conventionally understood sense.

  8. What are they is my question.
    What are they is my question. It’s not at all obvious that they’re aliens in the conventionally understood sense.

  9. “We must see this for what it
    “We must see this for what it has the potential to be: a feast of newness and discovery. But we should not forget the owl, dangerous bird of the night.”
    I’ve never understood the drive to be “first” to discover something. It seemed to me that so much had come before humans that it was unlikely that we would discover or produce something that was totally unprecedented in the history of the universe. What seemed much more exciting was to experience “discoveries” of any kind for ourselves, as individuals. Our perceptionand interpretation of phenomena would be unique to us no matter how many others had passed before us. Were we the first sentient species to tread the moon’s surface? Or see earth from space orbit? Or experiment with zero gravity? Given the vastness of the universe – and the likelihood of the existence of other or parallel universes – we have no way of knowing whether “we” have ever been the “first” in any way. What we could do was to learn and explore for the sake of it – not to be “first” but simply to be aware and thereby have a point of connection with other aware species – if any exist. Exploring our own Consciousness has always seemed to me to be the most important type of exploration. What, after all, are we transporting into space? If we don’t know who or what we are, all other “discoveries” are only ever partial. And if there are other sentient species – or if we are they but co-existent in different dimensions which sometimes intersect – and one of them is communicating through the analogy of the Owl, we should perhaps be studying Owls more closely remembering that the Owl Goddess is one of the oldest representations of Deity in human culture.

  10. “We must see this for what it
    “We must see this for what it has the potential to be: a feast of newness and discovery. But we should not forget the owl, dangerous bird of the night.”
    I’ve never understood the drive to be “first” to discover something. It seemed to me that so much had come before humans that it was unlikely that we would discover or produce something that was totally unprecedented in the history of the universe. What seemed much more exciting was to experience “discoveries” of any kind for ourselves, as individuals. Our perceptionand interpretation of phenomena would be unique to us no matter how many others had passed before us. Were we the first sentient species to tread the moon’s surface? Or see earth from space orbit? Or experiment with zero gravity? Given the vastness of the universe – and the likelihood of the existence of other or parallel universes – we have no way of knowing whether “we” have ever been the “first” in any way. What we could do was to learn and explore for the sake of it – not to be “first” but simply to be aware and thereby have a point of connection with other aware species – if any exist. Exploring our own Consciousness has always seemed to me to be the most important type of exploration. What, after all, are we transporting into space? If we don’t know who or what we are, all other “discoveries” are only ever partial. And if there are other sentient species – or if we are they but co-existent in different dimensions which sometimes intersect – and one of them is communicating through the analogy of the Owl, we should perhaps be studying Owls more closely remembering that the Owl Goddess is one of the oldest representations of Deity in human culture.

  11. The owl is also affiliated
    The owl is also affiliated with Athena, goddess of wisdom, courage, inspiration, civilization, mathematics, heroic endeavor…and war. So on a symbolic level, the ‘visitors’ are not like us, but a part of us and may possibly BE us.

    I don’t feel that being ready for disclosure is near as important as experiencing it and having some new doors open in terms of own growth as human beings. (‘The Open Doors’ crop formation comes to mind) At this point, we are evolving into nothing more than machines being manipulated by outmoded belief systems, big business, and governments seemingly lacking a moral compass in terms of the Earth, its importance in the cosmos, and its wide diversity of life that may make it an exceptional gem in a chaotic universe that is in itself full of great beauty.

    Being ‘first’ is not nearly as important as being conscious.

  12. The owl is also affiliated
    The owl is also affiliated with Athena, goddess of wisdom, courage, inspiration, civilization, mathematics, heroic endeavor…and war. So on a symbolic level, the ‘visitors’ are not like us, but a part of us and may possibly BE us.

    I don’t feel that being ready for disclosure is near as important as experiencing it and having some new doors open in terms of own growth as human beings. (‘The Open Doors’ crop formation comes to mind) At this point, we are evolving into nothing more than machines being manipulated by outmoded belief systems, big business, and governments seemingly lacking a moral compass in terms of the Earth, its importance in the cosmos, and its wide diversity of life that may make it an exceptional gem in a chaotic universe that is in itself full of great beauty.

    Being ‘first’ is not nearly as important as being conscious.

  13. Two aspects of discovering
    Two aspects of discovering and being first are notions of being special and in control. We are part of all and never completely in control. A warm house with food and water is nice. It appears stable, yet is perilous. Do I truly appreciate and respect this comfort? Is it possible without having others suffer or without empowering those that look to hurt us at some point?

    On top of this, it is quite possible that advances in technology and convergence with spirituality will make secrets exceedingly rare.

    In practice, we are in the midst of fundamental changes in economics, politics and culture at least as great as potential technological shifts. I appreciate growing up with a sense of privacy and individualism. How much will be retained as we progress? How many of us will feel that change is for the better? How much will open contact accelerate the process?

  14. Two aspects of discovering
    Two aspects of discovering and being first are notions of being special and in control. We are part of all and never completely in control. A warm house with food and water is nice. It appears stable, yet is perilous. Do I truly appreciate and respect this comfort? Is it possible without having others suffer or without empowering those that look to hurt us at some point?

    On top of this, it is quite possible that advances in technology and convergence with spirituality will make secrets exceedingly rare.

    In practice, we are in the midst of fundamental changes in economics, politics and culture at least as great as potential technological shifts. I appreciate growing up with a sense of privacy and individualism. How much will be retained as we progress? How many of us will feel that change is for the better? How much will open contact accelerate the process?

  15. With regard to the short
    With regard to the short story “The Open Doors”, it may be that aliens are as amazed by the physics of our domain as we are by theirs. Just walking down the street may be an incredible feat, as witnessed by alien beings. Aliens from a parallel reality may exist as partially disembodied. Sitting still, in a chair, may be like a “miracle” to them. Thus, in order for them to become fully adjusted to our reality, it may be necessary that we believe in them. And once that door is open, it cannot be thrust closed with ease. The aliens will then be entrenched.

    It may be that this is the case. If authorities refuse to tempt fate, then outsiders will be kept out, using this method. It is one way to insure our safety, if the beings are malevolent. Perhaps we are still collecting information concerning the alien’s motives at this time.

    There is a certain degree of paranoia when one encounters aliens from another dimension, especially when motives have not been completely ascertained. It is wise to leave the door shut, from a certain point of view. Paranoia may in fact be the wisest choice, when confronted by a super intelligent unknown. There is a tendency for superior beings to exploit other creatures, just look at mankind’s treatment of animals.

    Still, it is all guesswork at this juncture. We don’t know if we have chosen the proper course. It may very well be that the Greys are a test for humans. Surely, we must learn that some aliens have motives that are not congruous with our own—the depiction of the immaculate, benevolent alien has to die if we going to progress as a culture. I think we have grown up in this regard.

    However, if we are being tested, it is by whom? Is there a galactic federation out there who is contemplating our readiness for an induction into their institution? If so, perhaps the acknowledgement of the alien presence is the first step in our journey towards being included in such a federation. Paranoia comes with prevarication, and these are things that tend to muffle us as a race. With the shut door, comes silence. Having enough faith to put our existence on the line, for better or worse, may be something a galactic governing body may consider a worthy step for our civilization. Hope comes when one opens the door. At least then we will eventually be grappling with our problems in a united fashion, without shrinking from them in disbelief and fear. Circumstances can be addressed, problems outlined. Ideas will come forth like water from a spring. There may be periods of strife, initial conflict and shock, and more paranoia. But at least we will not be meandering aimlessly. We will have a destination. Using paranoia as a defense, it is hard to have a true direction. All one can do is preserve, not progress significantly. Our admission of the alien presence may be a test. We pass if we admit the aliens are here. Then, all people of the world can share in knowledge that subsequently arises from such a revelation. Hope breathes, a closed door does not. Spiritually, one can die from ignorance and apathy. It is a long term threat, but just as deadly as the sudden arrival of alien beings upon our immature planet. Suppression is suffocating, and that is the malaise we are currently living under.

  16. With regard to the short
    With regard to the short story “The Open Doors”, it may be that aliens are as amazed by the physics of our domain as we are by theirs. Just walking down the street may be an incredible feat, as witnessed by alien beings. Aliens from a parallel reality may exist as partially disembodied. Sitting still, in a chair, may be like a “miracle” to them. Thus, in order for them to become fully adjusted to our reality, it may be necessary that we believe in them. And once that door is open, it cannot be thrust closed with ease. The aliens will then be entrenched.

    It may be that this is the case. If authorities refuse to tempt fate, then outsiders will be kept out, using this method. It is one way to insure our safety, if the beings are malevolent. Perhaps we are still collecting information concerning the alien’s motives at this time.

    There is a certain degree of paranoia when one encounters aliens from another dimension, especially when motives have not been completely ascertained. It is wise to leave the door shut, from a certain point of view. Paranoia may in fact be the wisest choice, when confronted by a super intelligent unknown. There is a tendency for superior beings to exploit other creatures, just look at mankind’s treatment of animals.

    Still, it is all guesswork at this juncture. We don’t know if we have chosen the proper course. It may very well be that the Greys are a test for humans. Surely, we must learn that some aliens have motives that are not congruous with our own—the depiction of the immaculate, benevolent alien has to die if we going to progress as a culture. I think we have grown up in this regard.

    However, if we are being tested, it is by whom? Is there a galactic federation out there who is contemplating our readiness for an induction into their institution? If so, perhaps the acknowledgement of the alien presence is the first step in our journey towards being included in such a federation. Paranoia comes with prevarication, and these are things that tend to muffle us as a race. With the shut door, comes silence. Having enough faith to put our existence on the line, for better or worse, may be something a galactic governing body may consider a worthy step for our civilization. Hope comes when one opens the door. At least then we will eventually be grappling with our problems in a united fashion, without shrinking from them in disbelief and fear. Circumstances can be addressed, problems outlined. Ideas will come forth like water from a spring. There may be periods of strife, initial conflict and shock, and more paranoia. But at least we will not be meandering aimlessly. We will have a destination. Using paranoia as a defense, it is hard to have a true direction. All one can do is preserve, not progress significantly. Our admission of the alien presence may be a test. We pass if we admit the aliens are here. Then, all people of the world can share in knowledge that subsequently arises from such a revelation. Hope breathes, a closed door does not. Spiritually, one can die from ignorance and apathy. It is a long term threat, but just as deadly as the sudden arrival of alien beings upon our immature planet. Suppression is suffocating, and that is the malaise we are currently living under.

  17. Some final thoughts: I’m sure
    Some final thoughts: I’m sure alien races want a competent partner, someone who they can collaborate with on projects. They don’t want dependents. We should not give up our independent spirit in order to be babysat by more intelligent species.

    For those who attempt to glean dark secrets from alien contact through suppressed and surreptitious means, karma applies. Suppress humanity, and you ultimately suppress yourselves.

    One thing disclosure would cause would be better reception to new ideas. How can you suggest a new idea, when no one is listening? More open mindedness would result if disclosure took place.

    To Whitley’s question, “Disclosure: are we ready?”, I would suggest the following counter: “Life: do you consider it good, or bad?” For alien contact is a product of life in the Universe. If you consider it good or bad, that’s what may define your ultimate stance on the subject of disclosure. Do the benefits outweigh the pitfalls?

  18. Some final thoughts: I’m sure
    Some final thoughts: I’m sure alien races want a competent partner, someone who they can collaborate with on projects. They don’t want dependents. We should not give up our independent spirit in order to be babysat by more intelligent species.

    For those who attempt to glean dark secrets from alien contact through suppressed and surreptitious means, karma applies. Suppress humanity, and you ultimately suppress yourselves.

    One thing disclosure would cause would be better reception to new ideas. How can you suggest a new idea, when no one is listening? More open mindedness would result if disclosure took place.

    To Whitley’s question, “Disclosure: are we ready?”, I would suggest the following counter: “Life: do you consider it good, or bad?” For alien contact is a product of life in the Universe. If you consider it good or bad, that’s what may define your ultimate stance on the subject of disclosure. Do the benefits outweigh the pitfalls?

  19. Hey Whitley, I’m getting a
    Hey Whitley, I’m getting a little off topic here, but when are you going to write another non-fiction if I should say UFO/Alien book? I like your fiction, but as you have demonstrated here your thoughts on what really is going on here have evolved, and I still think you have a lot more (book worth) to say on this important topic!

  20. Hey Whitley, I’m getting a
    Hey Whitley, I’m getting a little off topic here, but when are you going to write another non-fiction if I should say UFO/Alien book? I like your fiction, but as you have demonstrated here your thoughts on what really is going on here have evolved, and I still think you have a lot more (book worth) to say on this important topic!

  21. I just wanted to mention that
    I just wanted to mention that the current interview of Whitley by Howard Hughes on http://www.theunexplained.tv
    is incredible! The new book is going to be really something.

    1. Hmm…that link does not seem
      Hmm…that link does not seem to be working. Does it work for you?

  22. I just wanted to mention that
    I just wanted to mention that the current interview of Whitley by Howard Hughes on http://www.theunexplained.tv
    is incredible! The new book is going to be really something.

    1. Hmm…that link does not seem
      Hmm…that link does not seem to be working. Does it work for you?

  23. Thanks for the link, EE. I’ll
    Thanks for the link, EE. I’ll check it out when I get a chance.

  24. Thanks for the link, EE. I’ll
    Thanks for the link, EE. I’ll check it out when I get a chance.

    1. I got it. Thanks. Sometimes
      I got it. Thanks. Sometimes you have to put in http:// instead of www.

    1. I got it. Thanks. Sometimes
      I got it. Thanks. Sometimes you have to put in http:// instead of www.

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