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Menacing shadow people give way to kindly blonde humanoids… or are they kindly? And what was that explosion? Who is that dying Gray? This week’s guest "Ian" has lived quite the highly strange life. As jam-packed as this episode is, his story cannot be contained in one show. Listen to this and curse the sky that you have to wait a week for its sequel!

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  1. Oh great, thanks for the ET
    Oh great, thanks for the ET spoiler. 🙂

  2. Sweet..!
    Sweet..!

  3. Interesting…I can’t wait to
    Interesting…I can’t wait to hear more!

    As far as the Blonds are concerned, I only ever had one vivid dream involving them…in which I got the strong sense they were not to be trusted, which was at odds to everything I had read about them to that point…and hooded beings, yes, that was quite a surprise…I had two vivid dreams about them…in the first one, they gave me a dowsing rod to play with…the energy I felt through that was really exciting…and the second dream they let me fly a small UFO that was sitting in the back garden…but I’m not sure I passed that test 🙂 As far as the hooded figures were concerned, they just watched. I seemed to know that they were holographic projections. I asked one of them where they were from and he just pointed to a bright star in the sky…yeah, great, thanks for that!

    I hope “Ian” gets into some of the details about what he learned from the female Nordic he interacted with, assuming he can remember it. If I had the chance to ask, I would like to know whether he feels that knowledge or any learned skills have changed him in any way…and whether any of it is generic enough to be useful to the rest of us..or was it just directed to his personal development?

    Another question I would ask Ian, assuming there are some interactions that he feels were important but he can’t remember the details of…what does he think is the point of these? Is it possible to learn lessons that can permanently change your core being but you can’t actually remember the details of the lesson? Or might they be time-encoded, to only be remembered / useful at some point in the future?

    Fascinating stuff!

  4. Regarding missing ‘details’:
    Regarding missing ‘details’: I can totally relate to that! Several years ago during meditation I ended up crossing a causeway that led to a huge crystal pyramid sitting in the middle of a beautiful lake nestled in some mountains. When I got inside the pyramid, there was some kind of control panel inside and a female voice explained that I was about to receive a download. Indeed, I did, and the only thing I remember about it was a blur of information that explained EVERYTHING. Once the download was complete, I was just stunned from all of the knowledge that had come through, yet unable to remember any of it! The female voice very matter-of-factly told me not to fret about the memory aspect of the download, that I would remember the information when it was needed. I left the pyramid and walked back across the causeway to the shore of the lake, then watched as the causeway and pyramid slid slowly beneath the waters of the lake.

    The only thing that I can say, is that this kind of experience just makes me more curious and seems to push me towards acquiring more knowledge and understanding of reality. Each time I have an unusual experience, it sets me off in a new direction of exploration and information, so maybe that is its purpose.

    Maybe every human being has these kinds of experiences, but only a few of us get past the “Gee, that was kind of weird” aspect of it to become Seekers. I look forward to Part II of this interview!

  5. Interesting. Looking forward
    Interesting. Looking forward to hearing part 2.

  6. My journalist/science teacher
    My journalist/science teacher wife bought me a UFO Sky Tour for my birthday. I think maybe you and or Whitley have interviewed the nice lady who does them. The jist of the tour is this – you get a pair of expensive military-grade night vision goggles and a high powered green laser for pointing and an hour of instruction. The instruction is: this is what planes look like, this is what mil aircraft look like. Helicopters. DO NOT SHINE LASERS AT THEM or we will go to jail.
    Then it gets dark and you stare at the sky.
    Jeremy – the experience is this: COMMERCE. TRAFFIC.
    We saw 1 new object every 30 seconds or so. Some times there were so many overhead we couldn’t keep track of them all.
    This wasn’t your grainy-picture-of-a-disk-shaped-thing or a low res jerky video of a single light agains at black background so you can’t make out motion. This was utterly blatant. Utterly obvious. Many of the objects were naked-eye visible. In fact, anyone with at least one eyeball could have stood beside us and seen a good percentage of what we saw with the goggles.
    It became clear – they’re all over, all the time. But Jeremy – they have OTHER things to do. We tend to really personalize the UFO/Alien experience because it happens in our minds, usually in an altered state of consciousness that’s hard to articulate or share in any way with a fellow human.
    This was commerce. We were watching the flow of things from one place to another, like standing on a highway overpass (in reverse) watching the cars and traffic go by – each one to somewhere, for some reason we don’t understand.
    My wife got freaked out. Eventually she started using the goggles to look for javalina under the cacti. When it was over she said to me: “Trees. We’re like trees to them. When you’re driving through a forest on the highway, you don’t stop to look at every tree and say, ‘Hi Tree…hi tree…'”
    It was utterly objective. They’re there, doing their stuff, passing us by like trees in a forest.

  7. “I hope “Ian” gets into some
    “I hope “Ian” gets into some of the details about what he learned from the female Nordic he interacted with, assuming he can remember it. If I had the chance to ask, I would like to know whether he feels that knowledge or any learned skills have changed him in any way…and whether any of it is generic enough to be useful to the rest of us..or was it just directed to his personal development?”

    I didn’t mention much more about the blonds or the female presence and I have never had a direct experience with such intensity but “she” (or someone similar) has shown up another time since then. I was making a very rudimentary attempt to employ a truncated version of the Abramelin operation, which is an extended magical ritual to evoke one’s own personal holy guardian angel, typically taking 6 months to a year depending on the version of the Grimoire. After a few days of fasting, prayer, yoga and meditation I had a vivid dream of a woman holding my hands and gently but firmly squeezing them while looking deep into my eyes. Everything about her said to me “I am real, I am here” and there was an powerful sense of discipline and compassion with a bit of wistfull and awareness of the hard-suffering of human life. She appeared not as a blond but dark haired caucasian woman with short hair and seemed to look like a Bhuddist nun. The dream then changed to an outdoor setting on a trail in a wooded area. Far up the trail ahead of me was a woman in white with long blond hair riding away on a white horse. I tried to follow but she passed out of sight and upon turning back the white horse galloped by me.

    It would be hard to put into words (without being poetic) as to how this impacted me emotionally but it was very deep and very poignant and I wept upon waking. The incredible presence and powerful sense of humanness was very touching and humbling.

    As for knowledge, it would seem that these spirits are more interested in raising awareness than imparting specific bits of knowledge. We may already have plenty of knowledge! Maybe.

    I too wonder about her true nature and her existence as compared to my own and what I understand from living a human life. A large part of this experience is paralleled in the fairy folk lore, in particular the idea of the Farie queen or the Farie lover who, in various stories, is sleeping/dreaming beneath a sacred mountain (or under the earth) who will one day awaken when the time is right. This, as some may notice, is also Gris for the mill of HP lovecraft who himself seemed to straddle the lines between the imaginal and the actual.

    This is also corresponds suspiciously well to legends of inner earth inhabitants who (according to some legends) are the true progenitors of humanity and custodians of the planet. These stories are also suspiciously similar to the ones being talked about by alleged secret-space program whistle blower Corey Good who is being interviewed by David Wilcock right now.

    So, more than simply shades of grey it seems to be a colorful spectrum of ideas, lore and experiences.

    “I would like to know whether he feels that knowledge or any learned skills have changed him in any way…and whether any of it is generic enough to be useful to the rest of us..or was it just directed to his personal development?”

    I’m just like you. There is no “the rest of you”. it’s just Us and only us, here now and forever, everywhere.

    I believe that much of the secret knowledge and mystical teachings people seek are already here and written down, hiding in plain sight or embedded within the natural world and our own bodies. “Seek and you will find” and “trust but verify”.

    “Is it possible to learn lessons that can permanently change your core being but you can’t actually remember the details of the lesson? Or might they be time-encoded, to only be remembered / useful at some point in the future?”

    Well, it’s certainly true that we can learn while asleep and that the unconscious mind has incredible capabilities. I have heard stories of contacees being taught things that would, according to the visitors, “become important some day” or that they would know what to do “when the time was right”. I have never had that particular experience to my knowledge.

  8. It is almost impossible to
    It is almost impossible to listen to this guest speak. Not only does he say “um” virtually every second or third word, when the host is speaking, he incessantly back-channels, saying “yeah” and “yup” over and over him. Had to turn it off, unbelievably irritating.

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