Archived podcast for paid Subscribers only. Please login to access.This week’s episode is a solo show that asks the question–and really does keep it a question–Do experiencers have a responsibility in how they articulate the phenomena happening in their lives, or even in what they present that could affect others?
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I’m in awe of the
I’m in awe of the synchronicity of this show. Though mine was a personal apocalypse. And I moved northwest. Just recently.
But i shouldn’t be in awe of you. I should simply do what you do. And I don’t mean the shows and the books.
Oddly enough, the question of
Oddly enough, the question of our responsibility as experiencers came up in a group discussion that I was involved in last weekend. The party that put the question to us that what were we doing besides “telling stories”, asked it with a sneer and said that we should be doing a lot more. I disagreed, and mainly because of the seemingly very personal nature of so many of our experiences. Sharing stories is important, and I guess my feeling is that it is up to the individual to take it beyond mere story-telling. For people like Jeremy and Whitley, a following has been established over time that gives them more leeway to go beyond story-telling and to directly engage with a wide variety of people and develop a style that includes discretion in how much you tell and what you are willing to tell an audience. For the rest of us, people may think our story is interesting, but it doesn’t go much beyond that. For us, it’s a non-starter, unless we write a book and spend time establishing a name for ourselves to the general public.
Since I have had many experiences, and a great variety of them too, my take on them has changed over time. Hoping that I increase others awareness, while encouraging them to ask the questions and explore them themselves is the most important thing to
me. Friends and acquaintances that know me well, sometimes will ask for my take on something. Some recent questions that stand out:
1. A few days after MH370 went missing, several people asked me what happened and when the plane would be found. I told them what I saw (interesting story in itself that tied into Starfire Tor, of all people), and that the plane would not be found. Keep in mind that I did not volunteer this information, friends asked me about it specifically.
2. As far back as February 2016 I saw Trump winning. Of course, nobody that I mentioned this to believed me, including my sweetheart who was in shock the day after the election and asked me,”How could you possibly know that?” ( I was in shock too, even though I knew it was coming. Go figure…)
…And then there was ‘Back to the Island’, Jeremy…Remember me telling you about that? It takes on a new meaning for me in light of the things that you spoke about today in relation to your move to Hawaii. Cue ‘Twilight Zone’ theme… 🙂
So, should you warn people or give them a heads up about these things? That’s a big “It depends…”. There is probably no right or wrong answer about this one,.
I had a dream when I was a teenager of being taken away in a spaceship. As I peered out a porthole-type window, I watched as the Earth was engulfed in an awful conflagration leaving me feeling, briefly, very grateful to be alive and safe. It then, occurred to me that everything and everyone one that I loved and cared about was gone. At the time, and for years thereafter, I thought of the dream as some awful vision of the future. Now I see the dream differently. It WAS a test. My life is the way it is because of my connectedness to everything else. My life without that connectedness to this planet and all living things would not be life at all. It would be true ‘death’, with only the appearance of being ‘saved.’
I think when experiences are
I think when experiences are new, there’s a desire to share them with anyone and everyone, to bring everyone along, like the whole world should change like we are, and I think we’re frustrated and disappointed when such proselytizing has anything but the positive results we think it will. Eventually I think we realize that while our experiences are real, others have the right to their own realities as well, and we have to respect that, so while the desire may never fade completely, it becomes tempered with what’s actually possible and practicable. It’s not that we become unwilling to share, just more realistic about whom we share with and the likely results.
There was a time when NDE’ers rarely spoke about their experiences, because of the ignorant reactions they received and an almost complete lack of receptivity in society. That largely has changed, and some have even come back with the specific message to share their experience. This indicates not only a positive change in society, but that there is innate value in sharing experiences of this and related kinds, also that perhaps the receptivity of others is not for us to judge, though it is surly no crime to share our experiences with discernment on an individual basis.
For those of us that
For those of us that participated in the FREE surveys over the last few years from the Dr. Edgar Mitchell Foundation and Research into Extraterrestrial and Extraordinary Experiences, I highly recommend the first volume and results of of those surveys, ‘Beyond UFOs, The Science of Consciousness and Contact with Non-Human Intelligence’. This is an important contribution to the body of work about consciousness, as well as the UFO experience. Susan Manewich is one of the contributors in this book, and has also been interviewed by Jeremy on ‘The Experience’, and also was part of the roundtable that I participated in a couple of years ago.
I received my copy of the book a few days ago, and I can tell you that it will be an important reference and resource for years to come. Check it out!
https://www.experiencer.org/beyond-ufos-the-science-of-consciousness-and-contact-with-non-human-intelligence/
Jeremy,
Lovely show. Thanks
Jeremy,
Lovely show. Thanks for sharing all that personal stuff; very helpful.
What an interesting journey.
Do I feel some responsibility? Yes… but… only to those who are close. 🙂
You asked, “How careful are you?”
In brief: very.
People’s readiness varies greatly. I would offer that the folks who would truly listen to you, and act (if action is in fact called for…) on the information you are sharing, are very likely probably already in your life, either as subscribers, or as people who are in your sphere as friends or neighbors.
Personally, I feel the main stream (read, “the Corporatocracy”) has almost nothing to offer in regard to this phenomenon.
( In my mind’s eye… a scene from the Aliens movies… Ripley, and “Weyland-Yutani Industries”… Hmm…. The corporate machine encounters an alien life form, and what does it do…? Hmm…. It does not end well for Ripley…)
( An aside: An enjoyable and brief read: See: https://www.cinelinx.com/movie-stuff/item/10928-the-importance-of-ship-names-in-the-alien-films.html )
There is too much about the encounter that is traumatic; too much that is taboo; too much that is numinous. We barely have a vocabulary for it…
I don’t believe that we are going to see any qualitative change over time. If we make the assumption that the phenomenon is actually much older than the main narrative would have it (I believe it’s deeply ancient and pre-dates us; that’s a belief…), I don’t think anything has changed: it’s as elusive and enigmatic as ever.
Great show,
-SD
Jeremy you put it so very
Jeremy you put it so very well that now I don’t have to add. Add what? You said it all.
Well done,
Steve Neill