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One of our last guests, "Crystal," was introduced to us by her brother, "Robert." Now, we meet Robert and learn about a UFO encounter he had with his then-wife that really gets to the heart of the question so many of us have forgotten is a question: Can we even know what’s going on? And that’s only hour one. In hour two, we talk to Dr. Tyler Kokjohn about some of the medical tropes in Ufology and the New Age that he is credibly able to speak to. Naturally, that conversation takes a surprising twist.

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Frankenstein Monster Cavemen. GMO Human Beings. Species eradication at the flip of a switch. In a slight departure from regular programming, Dr. Tyler Kokjohn returns to illuminate some of the darker science looming on the horizon. If some of it sounds like it fits in nicely with abduction testimony… it just might.
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Get ready for a tough interview the likes of which you will hear nowhere else….

Dr. Tyler Kokjohn is a microbiologist and a professor at Midwestern University. He is also an esteemed member of the Project Core team along with host, Jeremy Vaeni. In this, the first of two, you will hear a scientist asked and answer some extremely tough questions, beginning with how normality and rationality are defined by Western science. Then, we begin to apply scientific thinking to mystical phenomena leading into next week’s show. This is the interview that any other scientist would have walked out on. But Tyler is one of a kind.
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