Have you ever closed your eyes and seen someone staring back at you? That is the leaping off point for this week’s episode with actor/musician Joe Gooch and author Verna Lee Hutton Ely.

From Whitley Strieber: I have had this happen to me a lot. Often, it’s the same person. He’s a young man who looks vaguely military.
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Fan favorites Verna Lee Hutton-Ely and, later in the episode, Joe Gooch join host Jeremy Vaeni to connect some dots between ghosts, psychic mediumship, timelessness and that tricky word "enlightenment" in ways you will not hear elsewhere.
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Please note: the download and streaming issues on subscriber version of this show are fixed.

The first half of this episode picks up where the last left off, giving insight into the Ka’u lineage of Hawaiian mysticism previously held secret from the outside world. The second half takes a turn into questions that, until now, have not been asked about the "alien abduction" phenomenon–questions that tie into the nature of languages born from heart and brain-based cultures. If it’s time for abduction research to turn the page, researchers should start here.
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