Imagine that you’re the captain of an oil rig in the heart of one of the worst oil spills in human history. Imagine that you’re also a lifelong experiencer of Visitor phenomena. Imagine what happens next…. Karen Cavalli returns to talk about her latest small, impactful book: Captain Chris: A Tale of the Sea, the BP Oil Spill, and the Evolution of an Experiencer.

To order the book and learn more about Karen, please visit: KarenCavalli.com and her Amazon book page.
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"Shannon" is an experiencer who has put a lot of thought into the fear factor of her experiences. In this episode she shares with us her findings and, perhaps no surprise to this audience, they bring us straight into the heart of the question: Who are we?
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"Claire" has never shared her high strangeness experiences with anyone until now. She does not wish to belong to the experiencer club, so to speak. But does she have a choice? This is one of those riveting, and at times gut-socking, discussions that begins with a dead girl telling her what we all need to hear. Sometimes the secret to existence is elegant even if the delivery system is complicated!
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Is there a difference between the quality of contact experiences that take place in the external world and those that come from an interior domain? Why? What is truly happening here? These are the types of questions our guest Karen tackles, drawing on her lifetime of experiences to do it. And it might just be that what experiencers are ultimately being shown are the ways reality does and does not work from whatever perspectives they hold an interest and deep sense of inquiry in.
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