Debra Jordan Kauble (Kathie Davis of Budd Hopkins’ Intruders) goes deeply into the question of how mankind is going to face the fact that somebody is here. As former Undersecretary of Defense Chris Mellon has recently offered the opinion that the most probable explanation is “aliens,” more official acknowledgement mightread more

Debra Jordan-Kauble is the author of Extraordinary Contact: Life Beyond Intruders. This remarkable book goes far beyond the headlines and clickbait in this new era of UFO reporting. This book is her journey, and it plays out as remarkably hopeful. Deb was the central figure in Budd Hopkins’ important 1987read more

Debra Jordan-Kauble was the “Kathie Davis” of Budd Hopkins’ classic book of abduction, “Intruders.” Here, she joins Whitley for one of the most moving and inspirational editions of Dreamland that we have ever recorded. Whitley considers Debbie’s new book a classic of its kind, and if this interview is anyread more