Now that there has been an official admission that UFOs/UAPs are real objects and a genuine unknown, what about the close encounter experience? New York Times reporter Ralph Blumenthal has published an important article in the Debrief discussing this very question. Why can’t at least the media be more open, or is that happening? And what do we actually know? Do we have any hard evidence of a relationship between UFOs and abductions, or not? And what about the trajectory of the experience that many of us are noticing, from a shocking initial abduction to a life in contact that becomes richer and richer over time?

As one of America’s most distinguished reporters, Ralph brings a thoughtful and professional approach to this interview. WE will certainly learn a lot from it, but will the media, science, and those in government who conceal the truth? Let’s hope some of them listen!

To read the Debrief article, click here. To get Ralph’s terrific book about John Mack and his stellar close encounter research, click here.

Visit Ralph on his website, RalphBlumenthal.com.

PLUS, for subscribers, a touching and powerful 10 minute documentary about Anne Strieber. To watch, click here.

 

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34 Comments

  1. Our species has based religions on our centrality to the universe, and our overriding importance to God and reality. The human ego would sustain a terrible shock if forced to admit that we are physically and mentally inferior to another species. What would this tell us about our unique importance to God? I suspect that even if the government stated that visitors are here, a huge portion of the public would immediately reframe this into demonic Biblical terms.

    1. “…a huge portion of the public would immediately reframe this into demonic Biblical terms.” – I have family members who do exactly that, and their fear and hatred is palpable.

      1. True said. Immigrant children are scary. Antifa. Kyle Rittenhouse sobbing on the stand because of how scared he was so he had to kill two people. It astounds me how many people who claim to have such strong belief and Faith in God Almighty are so terrified all the time.

        1. The irony is so strong from this aptly named commenter you could forge it into a blade. What is truly astounding is how so many left leaning people show a complete lack of self awareness and a degree of self-righteousness that would put the religious conservatives to shame. Always painting those “rural religious rubes” as irrationally fearful while at the same time being afraid of “white supremacists” under their beds, calling their religious neighbors the “American Taliban” or believing that a sitting President is about to start WW3 under the sway of Russia because of some dubious opposition political hit job dossier that strokes your prejudices about someone you don’t like. People used to have integrity and honor and certainly both sides are at fault – but it used to be the left that went to bat for freedom of speech and due process now they are the ones that are advocating censorship, guilt by association, and trying someone in the court of emotion and identity politics. Shameful.

    2. Sure you’re correct, William. I, for one, don’t fear a mentally superior species and am always a little curious why it seems to send so many into a panic (although the answer there is obvious). The older I get the more I see that the true value of any being, no matter that being’s intelligence or outward accomplishments, is the state of its soul. The devotion to love, compssion and humility, and its alignment with the Good in the universe. Those traits dwarf intelligence in my view. The good news is that these traits are available to each one of us to develop without limit, and, moreover, that even encountering a non-human species more advanced in those areas than us gives us a wonderful opportunity to learn and grow. End of speech. Going to listen to Dreamland now.

  2. The opposite outcome may happen also: We stop seeing ourselves as Americans, Costa Ricans, French, etc…and see ourselves as Earthlings and start taking care of our spaceship!

  3. Oh Whitley, what a beautiful, and loving tribute to Anne. Many Blessings to you and yours.

  4. If a craft were put in the Smithsonian, many in the public would label it a man-made fake, even if the government vouched for its authenticity. Even demonstrations of extraordinary capability on the part of retrieved craft would be labeled as fake by many, at least initially.

  5. It must be lonely without Anne in the flesh but your eternal connection to her is enviable. I want to thank you again for ‘Jesus, A New Vision’ as it has changed my entire view of who and what we are.

    You are a breath of fresh air in a world full of spiritual pollution that seeks to diminish our individual freedom and misdirect us at every turn.

    Thank you for everything you do.

  6. Thanks verymuch for the discussion and tribute. Marvellous. I have spent rather too much time studying ESP to believe that ‘the phenomenon’ can ever be truly grasped. All attempts to reify the ESP phenomenon – stretching back 100 years – have failed and attempts to reify the Visitors are bound to fail – look at Whitley’s security system or what happened at Skinwalker Ranch. Either this is because the phenomenon does not want to be seen, or, as I personally suspect, because we are seeing things through a glass darkly and there is no real possibility of seeing it clearly.

    1. “seeing things through a glass darkly” – couldn’t agree more.

  7. On Wednesday, November 10, 2021, I was getting into bed about 11pm and happened to look out the window to the left in my bedroom, which gives a view of the edge of my roof, the roof next door, and the roofs across the street, as well as the trees. I was stopped at what I saw. Alarmingly close to the trees and neighborhood was a substantial aircraft, bulkier than a commercial airliner, certainly not a helicopter, too large to be a drone, illuminated from beneath by a large array of light sources on its underbelly and under both flanking wings. The thing that stopped me more than its proximity, however, was the fact that it was stopped in mid air. As I leaned forward to examine it, it glided forward smoothly and slowly, stopped again, then glided off over my house and out of view. It took me a while to absorb and recover from what I had just seen, out of the blue. I have not heard any other local claims of seeing such a strange object. I wish I could give an even more detailed description.

    1. Blimp maybe? But I don’t think I’ve ever seen a blimp come to a dead stop. Not saying they can’t, just never seen it.

      1. Nothing about this was a blimp. The shape, the lighting, the movement, the angle. I knew it was an aircraft of some kind but too low and stopping and strange in ways I can’t articulate. Something was just off.

  8. Last night I listened to the weekly Dreamland interview with Ralph Blumenthal on video–great interview. But, the documentary about Anne Strieber did not follow. Where can we listen to it?

  9. I’m hypothesising that the string pullers behind out government know exactly what these mainstream publicized UFOs are. They may even been ours. Now this is definitely not to say that we don’t have genuine UFO activity here. But in this way, we are able to control the disclosure. I think that they are slowly, almost painstakingly slow, introducing these subjects to us.. Now Whitely you and I and many many others are ready for disclosure. There are some who may not be. Fragile souls who would take the confirmed existence of aliens, especially confirming that aliens are here, and panic. They may believe we are in end of days or that these aliens are demons..and then kill their families. To us, aliens on different planets and multidimensional beings is just common sense. No big deal. Their world view is so warped, so small..so in the physical way of thinking..they just automatically see anyone or anything as different, as evil. They have very low emotional intelligence. But the bigger question, for me, is WHY. WHY now? They keep things of this nature hidden and classified all the time. Why now? Is it being forced? Is it a political strategy to thwart China? Are the Others insisting? We are also taking drastic steps to help, fix our earth. We abruptly/strangely and very uncharacteristically pulled out of the middle east. Covid was not an accident. I’m convinced it had something to do with our earth and environment. We may have been right at the threshold of the point of no return and needed to get out atmosphere cleared up some. Which it did. But what’s up with this sudden admission? Why now? What’s their endgame? And there is one. This is a carefully planned out psyop. Has to be. As I believe the capital riot was. I’m not even a republican and I believe that was at least partially staged. It’s easier to see these things when you aren’t emotionally invested in either party. Watch from the outside. Love you Whit! Keep up the good work. Your work has been in my life since I was a very little girl. Be safe and thank you!!

  10. I agree James Day!!

    Whatever happened to Mike C Whitley? Have not heard from him in weeks and weeks. It was one of the reasons why I resubscribed to Unknown Country.

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    Mike quit doing his podcast. Hopefully he will start up again. He did not offer a reason. I think he simply got tired and needs a break.

    1. That’s a shame. Hopefully he comes back around. Not giving a reason seems a bit out of character for someone who projects such an air of compassionate consideration. Hopefully he’s ok.

  12. In the 90’s, I attended an expo at Navy Pier in Chicago where John Mack spoke about the alien visitation involving the school children in Africa. However, what I remember most that day was an unknown helicopter hovering next to the outdoor audience that made it very difficult to hear John. A call was made to the FAA. After several more minutes of interruption, the helicopter departed and John said these harassments happened to him regularly.

  13. Whitley, what an exquisitely beautiful tribute to Anne you have shared with us. It and you have touched my heart deeply in my brief ten minute witnessing of your pure love for her and for each other. She sure was an amazing person, but then of course, so are you. I’m so pleased to be a subscriber to Unknown Country and I hope that we all will be blessed with your unique offerings here – and with YOU – for MANY years to come. Thank you so much Whitley.

  14. I was just wondering, is there a reason why auto generated captions are not enabled on the YouTube version of Dreamland? I don’t need them myself but I would’ve thought they might be useful for quite a few people.

    It might also help rankings on Google and help push more viewers to UC.

    There is a useful guide I found on how to do this, for content creators, here: https://youtu.be/tWbNrm7Jo5c

  15. Great show ! I think more and more subjects that were once taboo are coming forth into main stream media now.
    I tend to think it will reach a point were it can not be discounted any more.

  16. My mind keeps oscillating between, on the one hand, generating analogies that might help frame this mad existence of ours into something that might vaguely make sense…and on the other, realising it is completely and utterly unfathomable.

    It is like reality is a mobious strip… It doesn’t matter which way you go, you always end up in the same place. We’re almost like psychic fish… Mostly we swim around in the physical, occationally looking above towards a distorted ripple of a world we cannot even begin to fathom… Into which a hook occasionally intrudes, to drag one of us out of comfort into the strange world above. Then, if not on a hook, as these talented fish do, they rest, sink within and inhabit the world above, by peering into the psychic soup… as above, so within, or so it seems. But despite the ability to peer either way, up or down this mobious band of existance, it seems we have as much a grasp of its true scope, as does a slug stretching its slimy eye towards an observing human. So what is the point of asking a question, when all it does is generate more questions? My mind goes round this merry-go-round, trying to make sense of these ever changing, dancing shadows, to the final point of giving up. Then the near silence comes, the questions stop and I settle out of the mental sloshing and back to here…wondering after all whether this might actually be the point, to finally stop the questioning and rest…just in awe of it all.

    1. Paul McCartney wrote this song in memory of his late mother. It does have simple words of wisdom, for all of us. Don’t overthink all of this for answers. Like in meditation, observe that things have happened, be AWARE of them, then let them go.

      “Let It Be”
      When I find myself in times of trouble
      Mother Mary comes to me
      Speaking words of wisdom
      Let it be

      And in my hour of darkness
      She is standing right in front of me
      Speaking words of wisdom
      Let it be

      Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
      Whisper words of wisdom
      Let it be

      And when the broken-hearted people
      Living in the world agree
      There will be an answer
      Let it be

      For though they may be parted there is
      Still a chance that they will see
      There will be an answer
      Let it be

      Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
      Yeah, there will be an answer
      Let it be

      Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
      Whisper words of wisdom
      Let it be

      Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
      Whisper words of wisdom
      Let it be

      And when the night is cloudy
      There is still a light that shines on me
      Shine until tomorrow
      Let it be

      I wake up to the sound of music
      Mother Mary comes to me
      Speaking words of wisdom
      Let it be

      Let it be, let it be, let it be, yeah, let it be
      There will be an answer
      Let it be

      Let it be, let it be, let it be, yeah, let it be
      There will be an answer
      Let it be

      Let it be, let it be, let it be, yeah, let it be
      Whisper words of wisdom
      Let it be

      1. I needed that, thanks 😀.

        I found these lines especially interesting…
        “I wake up to the sound of music
        Mother Mary comes to me
        Speaking words of wisdom
        Let it be”.

        Especially when you hear of song writers waking up with a fully formed song in their head. I think McCartney had that happen for ‘Yesterday’.

        I remember waking up once with a beautiful orchestral score I didn’t recognise playing in my mind…I just wasn’t even vaguely capable of transcribing it…and five minutes later it faded into nothing.

        I find it truly fascinating when you hear of artists or musical prodigies talking about how the heavens seem to open for them, and their art or music poured in, fully formed, as if directly from God.

        It makes you wonder what we truly are.

  17. Since my husband and I have both had experiences, before and after we even knew each other, it wasn’t a surprise when our daughter began having experiences.

    She sometimes has extremely vivid dreams, but she knows if she was lucid dreaming because she counts the doors. If there’s a door that’s out of place it’s a lucid dream and she can control it to some extent.

    For a while she wanted her closet door shut so the “tall, white skeleton” wouldn’t come out. I asked her if she ever said hi to them. She started saying hi and the closet isn’t scary anymore! When she does get nervous, we’ve taught her to breathe, mediate and call for her spirit guide. She knows her guide will always come.

    I guess what I’m saying is that secrets don’t help anyone. Pretending we saw nothing would be a lie and she would just be even more scared. That’s not something I could do to a 7 year old.

    She’s always on the lookout for ufos now! A couple months ago, she called daddy over to see what she thought might be a ufo, turned out to be a plane, and he saw a uap. It was a black hole in the daytime sky. Her observance showed him something he had never witnessed!

    1. My daughter had similar experiences with a woman in her full length mirror, and a cat (that wasn’t ours) sitting on her chest at 3am. She was older (grown) when she relayed these occurrences to my wife and I, so she was able to articulate the visitations, if you will, with plenty of detail. She made it clear that the cat was cool, the woman not so much.

  18. I am not sure, but is it possible that there are personality characteristics which make certain people chosen? Perhaps in something about one’s inner development which made be connected to one’s stability? Considering that which you had to endure, Whitley, your inner strengths including deep honesty and care for and about others, may be characteristics which put you as a good choice. Maybe the visitors can see a person’s character and make choices about those who have the “temperament” which helps to move humanity on earth forward – as you say “to understand itself.”
    There is so much you and Anne and others have done – and we need “leaders with scruples” (like you, Anne, and many others) perhaps the most unusual leaders of all!
    Thank you for being who you are. You have and continue to make a difference. : ). Peace & Joy to all your loved ones.

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