Dean Radin joins Whitley for a very powerful and important discussion about real magic, by which we mean powerful natural forces that we have been told don’t exist and that we don’t understand, but which we CAN understand and CAN use to empower ourselves and, frankly, save this world of ours for our children.

Dean, which his long experience of studying mysterious powers from a scientific standpoint, is all about turning those powers into tools that we can all use. During the show, he comments that many intelligent species in the universe who are, like us, in their adolescence, never leave it. We can become a mature species. We can survive, and drawing powers that are now considered magical into mainstream life is a critical step in that direction. Listen as Dean outlines not only how this works, but shows that a great deal more has been accomplished scientifically in this area than we realize.

In the third part of the show, Whitley brings up the strange little individual who followed him and Anne from upstate New York to Texas, and asks him why it was that this strange man could read minds. DEAN’S ANSWER IS AMAZING.

Nuff’ said–listen up!

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Subscribers, listen to Whitley describe his new understanding of his relationship with Anne. Also, the founder of the Institute of Noetic Sciences was Edgar Mitchell. Don’t miss his marvelous 2008 Dreamland interview. Click here to listen! (Must be logged in to listen.)

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27 Comments

  1. I read Real Magic earlier this year. A real treat! I’ll be definitely listening to this tonight. Thanks!

    1. Thanks for having Dean Radin on your show. So interesting to learn about the further adventures of the random number generators and mass attention. That set of studies was one of the most satisfactory evidences in the book.

      I’m inspired to re read “The Conscious Universe”, one of the seminal books in my collection. I wish I could persuade someone of my acquaintance to read it. It’s a paradigm-shifting work.

  2. Great show! Apologies in advance to Free-Dreamlanders, but I am struck by the references in the Subscribers portion of the show regarding the role of randomness in our Universe. Is it the basic nature of our experience or possibly, just seems to appear that way?

    I remember the old TV show ‘Mork and Mindy’ (1978-1982), and after that show ‘Jumped-the shark’ the writers introduced a character of an angel into the plot.

    The angel’s name was -Random- . Wow that was some insight there!

  3. As James Tunney and I discussed before our interview and perhaps during our interview, there is a network of mystics around the globe connecting in a without an organization that can be infiltrated who are doing this critical work. Once the general population has taken responsibility for their own internal light, the world will reflect back that light to us. Unfortunately, we are living in a time of lies and untruths and that is polluting us internally and externally.

  4. Thoughts regarding some of the topics brought up in this interview. 

    Dean Radin, thank you for this EXCELLENT interview as well as the excellent article you wrote for the A.R.E. (VENTURE INWARD MAGAZINE) SUMMER 2020. So, I am wondering, is there enough time for change, should we even try, maybe our planet is part of a great cosmic plan/renewal. FIERCELY PAINFUL??? 

    The Harmonic Convergence of 1987. I was there at the Cahokia Mounds; it was an amazing experience, YET, here we are in 2020 with the planet seemingly in a downward spiral. “The Harmonic Convergence is the name given to the world’s first synchronized global peace meditation, which occurred on August 16–17, 1987. This event also closely coincided with an exceptional alignment of planets in the Solar System.”

    Last night I read a few of these  articles posted at http://grahamhancock.com/

    “White Bear described a succession of cycles through which human societies develop and then self-destruct because they have fallen out of harmony with the intelligent universal force from which all life springs.”

    “White Bear said, in the following manner:”

    “The kickmonguity, or Queen of Atlantis, had been threatening Kásskara with destruction from weapons that could be fired from space. Our people had knowledge comparable with the people of Atlantis, but we used it only for good and useful ends. As I already mentioned, we studied the secrets of nature, the power of the Creator in living things,” White Bear said, explaining that his ancestors did not seek revenge and avoided killing even to defend themselves. The Hopi culturally embody Jesus’ admonition not to resist evil: “Turn the other cheek”.

    Perhaps some of the listeners will want to look at these, maybe not…….What did the Hopi Ant people know last year when they started to emerge?

    http://cropcircleconnector.com/2019/SparticlesWood/SparticlesWood2019a.html

    Legacy Of Kásskara: Hopi History, Spirituality And Symbolism
    https://grahamhancock.com/hamiltons4/

    The Mysterious Past of the Hopi: From Kásskara to the Americas
    https://grahamhancock.com/hamiltons3/

    Earth Cataclysms And The Hopi Kachinas, Saviours From Space
    https://grahamhancock.com/hamiltons2/

    Kásskara: Sunken Land of the Hopi Ancestors
    https://grahamhancock.com/hamiltons1/

  5. Fascinating show which opened my mind from Edgar Mitchell and 1880s Mediums and his Noetic scientific research reminded me of your recent interview with Hank Wesselman as he had been subjected to scientific analysis and his ability to alter his brain waves was tested and “ proved “ in a verifiable way
    Hawaiian shamanic tradition and those of Pre Columbian / Toltec and the non Vedic and Judeo Christian / Western shamanic traditions have so many tales of “ magical “ beings and in-organic entities affecting us physically , mentally and energetically similar to Dean Radins accounts
    Deans answer to you question related to the bothersome “‘smoking” individual that stalked you and Anne in Upstate NY and later in Texas was thought provoking in that his comments attributed potential genetic links to very ancient sub species and cultures and mythical beings and fairy lore and not the more popular human / alien hybrid hypothesis
    Wow !

  6. Fascinating show which opened my mind from Edgar Mitchell and 1880s Mediums and his Noetic scientific research reminded me of your recent interview with Hank Wesselman as he had been subjected to scientific analysis and his ability to alter his brain waves was tested and “ proved “ in a verifiable way
    Hawaiian shamanic tradition and those of Pre Columbian / Toltec and the non Vedic and Judeo Christian / Western shamanic traditions have so many tales of “ magical “ beings and in-organic entities affecting us physically , mentally and energetically similar to Dean Radins accounts
    Deans answer to you question related to the bothersome “‘smoking” individual that stalked you and Anne in Upstate NY and later in Texas was thought provoking in that his comments attributed potential genetic links to very ancient sub species and cultures and mythical beings and fairy lore and not the more popular human / alien hybrid hypothesis

  7. Fascinating show which opened my mind leaped from Edgar Mitchell and 1880s Mediums and his Noetic scientific research reminded me of your recent interview with Hank Wesselman as he had been subjected to scientific analysis and his ability to alter his brain waves was tested and “ proved “ in a verifiable way
    Hawaiian shamanic tradition and those of Pre Columbian / Toltec and the non Vedic and Judeo Christian / Western shamanic traditions have so many tales of “ magical “ beings and in-organic entities affecting us physically , mentally and energetically similar to Dean Radins accounts
    Deans answer to you question related to the bothersome “‘smoking” individual that stalked you and Anne in Upstate NY and later in Texas was thought provoking in that his comments attributed potential genetic links to very ancient sub species and cultures and mythical beings and fairy lore and not the more popular human / alien hybrid hypothesis

  8. A great show as always – has anyone found the new discussion by Whitley about his relationship with Anne that he mentions at the beginning? It doesn’t appear to be in Whitley’s Room… ? I’m not seeing a link to the mobile app either.

    1. I couldn’t and would like to find this as well. Thanks to anyone who can help.

      1. I re-downloaded this show and the discussion is actually at the end of the mp3. I think I must have downloaded the non-subscriber version.

    2. Regarding the new discussion, I don’t know yet, I haven’t looked.

      But about the Apps, there aren’t links to download the apps but there is this…

      “Copy and paste link into the Castro app for iOS or the Podcast Addict app for Android, or any app that accepts password protected podcasts.”

      So, it assumes you know how to download either app from the Apple store, or the Google Play Store and once you’re in the app, it seems you are supposed to paste in this…

      https://ucsub:GoldTreeStopPath@feeds.feedburner.com/unknowncountry/DreamlandUCsub

      If you are struggling to find the Apps themselves, then you can find them here…

      Android – Podcast Addict:
      https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bambuna.podcastaddict
      Apple Castro Podcast player:
      https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/castro-podcast-player/id1080840241

      I’ve just downloded the Android ‘Podcast Addict’ app…. so, it seems once you download and opened it, you select Podcasts from the main menu (top left) , then under the Getting Started page for Podcasts, there is an orange + icon ‘Podcasts’…click that… Then on the New Podcast page, click the RSS icon… and paste in the Goldtree link above as the RSS feed URL… and I’m assuming, you also need to check the ‘Authentication (premium podcast)’ checkbox and enter your Unknowncountry username and password before clicking Add.

      And if you don’t know how to copy the link above, there is a button half way down the main UC Dreamland page to copy it for you.

      For the Apple app, I don’t know, sorry!
      Phew!

  9. As a professional psychic, I was particularly intrigued by this show. I can’t help but think of how many Christian fundamentalists are focusing both their attention and intention on bringing about Armageddon.

    Whitley, I would be intensely interested in hearing more about the testing you went through with Kit Green. Do you think he would be willing to come on Dreamland?

  10. Up until and hour ago I participated in a two hour Zoom meetings given by Louise Kay.
    While she was answering questions from some of the participants this is what I jotted down of some of the things she said:
    .
    As awareness, without identifying with any thoughts, notice the sensations.
    .
    Lose all interest in thoughts. Move to feelings.
    .
    Without effort to be different or better.
    .
    Awareness is I Am, God or Source who does it all, our real Self.
    .
    The allowance is unconditional love.
    .
    Go to the feelings in the body. The tightness or tension. Energy we call fear. Allow it to be and stay for as long as it wants.
    .
    Allowing oneself to be eaten completely by the human experience of thoughts and feelings.

  11. Good memories of reading Entangled Mind shorty after it came out. So exciting to read that experiments done with people who are close to each other -like twins and long time married couples- had proven that they could experience what the other was experiencing, and also make the other experience things. So they were connected on the soul level.
    .
    Speaking of levitation, it has been recorded that when the two most famous Spanish mystics St. Teresa of Avila and St. John of Cross met for the first time in one of the monasteries, they both levitated.
    To my understanding a reflection in the outer world of an inner detachment from the outer world and union with God in divine love.

  12. Those decisions Whitley made were made out of love. For the cat, willing for it not to get burned, and for himself willing not to get hurt by a robber.

  13. I have several books by Dean Radin, going back to his ‘The Conscious Universe’, and ‘Real Magic’ is a treat! His knowledge is special—with a few surprises thrown in!

    So, for what it’s worth…

    When Radin and Whitley discussed the being that followed Whitley and Ann to San Antonio, I made sure that I paid attention to every thing that was said. I am not sure if Whitley remembers it, but several years ago he did an interview with Dave Navarro where he told the story of the man/boy to Navarro. I don’t know how (or why) it happened, but for some strange reason I connected for mere moments with that being on a psychic level as Whitley told the story, and it was devastating. It left me in tears, and I did relay it to Whitley soon after I watched the interview.

    When Dean Radin discussed the possibility the the being may be from some other lineage or race of beings and that Whitley may have some genetic connection to that lineage, I immediately thought of something from ‘The Life You Were Born to Live’ by Dan Millman. It may have zero connection to all of this, but under my own life purpose ( this is based on a specific kind of numerology) It said that “Because many…have subconscious resonance with an ancient lineage of wizards, sorceresses, or enchanters, some of whom misused their abilities…(they )may fear using their powers. The Law of Higher Will plays a central role, as it inspires them to use their abilities for a higher purpose and thereby releases subconscious fears”.

      1. Last year I had a stroke and lost the use of my right hand. So anything that I post takes time and effort using ONE finger. Also, I had something that I thought was important to be heard. I am not upset with you as much as I am the circumstances. So, it may be magic…but, damn!

  14. Thanks for having Dean Radin on your show. So interesting to learn about the further adventures of the random number generators and mass attention. That set of studies was one of the most satisfactory evidences in the book.

    I’m inspired to re read “The Conscious Universe”, one of the seminal books in my collection. I wish I could persuade someone of my acquaintance to read it. It’s a paradigm-shifting work.

  15. I was reading through the posts and people’s input after listening to the show and was drawn to the wonder we all have for the life above us.

    Cosmic interestingly mentioned resonance and that jumped out at me with regard to the old boy that followed Whitley.

    I do not think he was a Tulpa or a surviving unknown hominid. I can’t help but wonder if Whitley’s trauma survivor consciousness bridged the divide between realms somehow and allowed this entity to be seen by humans still in body.

    That he may be another level or branch of Whitley’s soul tree within the tapestry of consciousness that Transport bodies express is touching on Cosmic’s reference to resonance. Another level of Whitley? Another life witnessed? The gasping at nakedness sounded only too familiar. On occasion, my own guides can be heard making comments about what they witness below them, though I got used to that some time ago.

    Listening to a Coast from April today, the guest was talking about being told in a dream to get some Bismuth to heal her back. I don’t recall the guest’s name but I resonated with her voice so much that I entered almost complete attention to her words as I drove.

    The magical healing she experienced wowed George Noory, you could tell. I felt the same, she was a wonderful speaker. It was then I realised that I wanted to experiment with Bismuth to see what happened but I quickly heard one of my guides, (part of my own tree of consciousness), suggest that I ‘wait until it’s brought to you’.

    Running after things rarely works well. One of my guides said something about the life above us last week that went something like this.. ‘Wonder, not wanting’. It felt like a reflection of a pool of consciousness all around us that marvels in the glassy perfection of consciousness promoting more consciousness. Sometimes the helpers aren’t glamorous at all but are very experienced and it shows.

    Most of my guides sound like kids. Occasionally an older, croaky voice will chip in but it’s rare. When they start arguing with one another like kids in class I have to smile inwardly.

    Peace.

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