In this astonishing and important edition of Dreamland, we first talk to Starfire Tor, whose Amazon Rain Forest Mission attempted to create rainfall in the Amazon Basin last week. This happened, and as it is the dry season, it was quite unexpected.  To see one of the stories confirming Starfire’s claim, click here.

Then Joseph Farrell goes deeper than he ever has before into the nature of the dark presence that lurks behind the deep state and seeks through its manipulation of governments and hidden yet powerful individuals to undermine human freedom and ultimately to destroy mankind. He and Whitley are deeply kindred spirits, and together the shine light into some very dark places during this hour and a half. Much of it is never before heard material that is going to enlighten you and thrill you. For example, there is an incredible discussion about what Joseph found when researching Joe McCarthy and the notorious Army-McCarthy hearings. But it’s not about communism and abuse of power at all. Incredibly, its completely new material about the Roswell Incident, discovered in recently declassified documents that only an researcher like Joseph would be likely to spot.

A note from Whitley: The term “deep state,” as used here has its original meaning, not the current meaning that has been ascribed to it by those wishing to disguise its reality by altering the definition of the term. An example of “deep state” as we mean it is exemplified by the “Finders” controversy of 1987. A group of apparently feral children were found in a park in Tallahassee, Florida in 1985. An attempt by the Treasury Department to investigate the organization responsible for them resulted in CIA claiming a national security issue and stopping the investigation. It is this “deep state” that we are talking about here, not the fallacious re-definition of the term that is actually a way of concealing it.

In the subscriber section, the discussion of Jeffrey Epstein, child abuse cults among the rich and powerful and the horrific unsolved mystery of “the Finders” will make you think more deeply than ever about the nature of good and evil in our world, and how important it is to live a good life that cherishes the needs of others and respects the value of the human soul and the Earth itself.

Joseph is now a self-publisher so that only he is responsible for the content of his books. This stunner is available on LuLu.com in paperback for $21.50 and worth a fortune! To get it and his other great titles now, click here.

27 Comments

  1. I am very disappointed in you Whitley. “The deep state”? Come on! I thought you were better than this.

  2. Does the podcast feed url from the old site no long work for the new web site? Can subscribers work with a podcast app?

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    Please don’t assume we buy into the current definition of deep state. We are using the term as it has been used for many years to describe the large hidden state that exists behind the wall of classification.

  4. I can’t think of a time Whitley has disappointed me. I thought the above description of the podcast was crystal clear: A note from Whitley: The term “deep state,” as used here has its original meaning, not the current meaning that has been ascribed to it by those wishing to disguise its reality by altering the definition of the term. An example of “deep state” as we mean it is exemplified by the “Finders” controversy of 1987. A group of apparently feral children were found in a park in Tallahassee, Florida in 1985. An attempt by the Treasury Department to investigate the organization responsible for them resulted in CIA claiming a national security issue and stopping the investigation. It is this “deep state” that we are talking about here, not the fallacious re-definition of the term that is actually a way of concealing it.”

  5. The subscriber version I downloaded did not include the Starfire Tor section. It’s on the streaming version, however.

  6. Farrel has lost me. His Youtube stuff is pretty right wing oriented. Notice when Whitley mentioned famine/food shortage, Farrel was quick to turn it into a left wing conspiracy with the Oregon story instead of acknowledging climate change as a threat. I’m not saying the incident didn’t happen, but it is telling how quickly he went in that direction. He has professed his skepticism for climate change, for whatever reason, and it’s really chicken shit of him not to go deep into it as to why …he does everything else. I think its mostly his base just like C2C, with George Noory. They’re both getting their popularity and paycheck from that side. Joseph has important things to say but he needs to stay out of the political game. I don’t watch his stuff anymore or buy his books.

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    Farrell has always been generally conservative, but too fascinating in his overall worldview to just ignore. I think that events are outrunning the climate crisis deniers at this point, and they need to face the fact that they are wrong and we are in an urgent crisis. If he faced that and put his mind to understanding the hidden motives behind climate crisis denial, we’d all benefit. Among other things, the problem is so in-your-face at this point that I wonder if the deep state (my definition, please, not Trump’s) might not actually be trying to trigger a massive population decline. Somebody like Joseph, with his amazing research abilities, could probably find that out.

    1. Climate deniers, just like far right-wingers are in the minority. We are moving fwd without them to save Gaia.

  8. Watch the Handmaid’s Tale – too real and too possible to not take notice of. Deep State? the Status quo elephant in the road? Organized religion? fear? what will make people surrender their only real property – their freedom!

  9. Whitley and Joseph Farrell, I am wondering about Woody Norris and his contributions to SOUND? I was EXTREMELY upset in 2004 when I wrote to him, still am.

    https://gizadeathstar.com/2018/09/usa-those-cuban-sonic-attacks-putin-did-it/

    —— Forwarded Message ——
    From: “Woody Norris”
    To:
    Sent: 8/12/2004 5:56:06 PM
    Subject: Re: Very Curious

    Dear Carol:

    The effect would be the same as if you were able to put a pair of headphones on a sleeping person.

    Beyond that, who know???? Interesting idea.

    Woody

    On 8/12/04 6:45 AM, “Carol wrote:

    08/12/2004

    Dear Woody Norris. After reading the article by Mike Goldfein, (?) FOCUS ON SOUND BEAMS? it leaves me with a question. What if a person is in a sleep state and the emitter is focused on him/her, will it be remembered as a dream, vision, the voice of GOD or will it even be remembered at all? Very curious.

  10. Starfire Tor? this lady believes herself [good for her] but what she has to do with reality I have no clue. Astral tag? wow!

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    Starfire is a real trip, for sure. I probably would think her too far out even for Dreamland except that Anne and I had a time slip in her presence that was not explainable as anything else. From the moment it happened, she took the role of researcher and did this with great thoroughness and expertise. She was on Dreamland frequently for years until she nearly expired from what turned out to be some kind of undiagnosable brain malfunction, not a normal stroke.

    I set up a search on Starfire Tor, which will take you to a lot of the material about her on the site: https://www.unknowncountry.com/search-results/?_sf_s=Starfire&_sft_category=headline-news

    Searching on Magic Castle also brings up a lot.

  12. Las night I had a thought – turn this hurricane out to sea! This morning I found it is turning North – unexpectedly – abruptly! Did I do that? HA! You can’t prove a negative so her taking credit for things is not any proof of anything except her bloated ego. I think its good she wants to do things for the benefit of some. No change happens that is “good” for all so that noble gesture is not from anyone’s view but hers and those who benefit. Even if the rain stopped SOME fires and EVEN if some one comes forth saying I MADE THEM HAPPEN why does she think she is the ONLY reason it happened this way?

    1. Maybe she was trying to elicit help with her appearance on Dreamland? I don’t know her, I’m not sure she was claiming she was alone on this. Either way if it happens, shining light on the evil doers, I don’t care how she reached it. Whole ecosystems are in danger and dying. More bad news on the great barrier reef. //www.ecowatch.com/australia-great-barrier-reef-poor-2640118306.html?utm_campaign=RebelMouse&socialux=facebook&share_id=4848210&utm_medium=social&utm_content=EcoWatch&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1eposKGap7e_T77Yv6-f40VAyyzbCmsZlZg0AHBJSevRIY6ezHIyzYzFk That place is a huge carbon sink and the oceans are acidifying. At some point debts will need to be paid. We can’t go on emitting CO2 and destroying carbon sinks at the same time!

  13. Joe is an inspiration. Best interview exchange I’ve heard here this year. And Whitley I commend your reinforcing that our only defense against this darkness is staying in the light and refusing its lure and control thru its tactics of fear and lies. The absurdity of the Trump administration is just the latest act of total chaos it tries to bring thru with I your face lies and deception IF YOU LET IT IN!!

  14. and thank you for correctly using the ASCII code instead of the ignorant use of many calling it BINARY. I know its just a pet peeve of mine but so many “learned” people speak here and really are just parroting what some else said. Keep up the great work and never lose the faith in our being a soul that is a splinter of one source no matter what you choose to call it.

  15. This podcast delved into some deep waters indeed. Thank you both for going into these dangerous waters.

    I agree with Mr. Strieber about how our mating season according to weather has changed.
    Nature is always very careful with these things.

    I dont think its been a natural change, but that we have now been somehow engineered to breed as much as possible.
    After all, how many times do aliens get into sexual encounters with humans for their own agenda.

  16. I want to include one more post from this interview and I certainly listened intently to everything Joseph Farrell has to say. Morals/owning up to mistakes/not taking responsibility for individual actions…etc, seems to be a serious problem in our country today. Perhaps worldwide? There are brilliant authors trying to point the way and I guess in their own way could be called modern day prophets. I just finished reading:

    America Before: The Key to Earth’s Lost Civilization
    by Graham Hancock…….https://grahamhancock.com/america-before/
    I HIGHLY suggest everyone at the very least, read the LAST chapter. I did a library download.

    A quote from last weeks interview…….“REPEATING PAST INTO THE FUTURE?”

    I want to believe we have a future on this planet BUT something inside me is thinking otherwise. There are so many people I love and would gladly give my life for if it were possible.

    Another author is https://www.williamhenry.net/…….Transhumanism/A.I. …….William Henry has been sending out warnings for some time now.

  17. I love Whitley. He is so very balanced. Whitley is a classic host! This was another classic Dreamland. I have the first edition of Joseph’s book on the transcripts. He has always professed to be balanced “politically” as well, but he does let his right wing views slip out once in a while. His website has lost a lot of balanced free message board “Community” posters since 2016 when The Con-Man-in Chief started his run for President. They are mostly sarcastic right wing Trump follower fanatics now except for one or two. I still like his research and books. He did not have to make the attempt at the end of the current book to be sarcastic and refer to the Clintons regarding the sale of tech to the Chinese.
    True or not I did not think it belonged there and I thought Joseph was better than that. It was a cheap shot.
    The vast majority of the book’s content is fascinating just as it is described in the above description of the Dreamland show this week.

    The only other sessions I think are classics are whenever Joseph is on with Al at Forumborealis.net or the old Byte Shows which can still be found on the internet archive’s wayback machine.

  18. A stunning show that kept me enthralled as I struggled with a difficult weekend working in Northern Ireland in torrential rain.

    The old spirits should have been dampened but listening to the conversation took me away from the dourness and provided an insight to how well off most of us are. These world leaders and ‘stalwarts of the community’ have souls like muddy water.

    Peace.

  19. Whitley, you might want to also consider it’s possible your were picking up the man’s thoughts that lived below you..the one that committed suicide.

    Just a thought…

    1. I thought about Joseph Farrell’s remarks a little more and I wanted to make one final comment on this Dreamland episode. First, I want to say that I subscribe to Dr. Farrell’s opinions on many of the conclusions he draws upon, in general. During this episode he states that in his opinion, the negative entities are “demonic”. I caution the use of that word. It’s a label that may place one into a particular paradigm of thought that can be limiting. From my own perspective I refer to these same entities as “negative non-human beings/intelligences”. It provides a macroscopic perspective and does not limit itself to religious overtones, which can be self-defeating.

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