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In July Grant Cameron provided us with one of the most fascinating Dreamlands ever recorded. It started out as a discussion of an incredible UFO event, but morphed almost immediately into one about the cutting edge of what is happening among UFO insiders, what the disclosure process really is and where it is going.

Now Grant is back, and in the first half of the show he and Whitley talk about Charlie Red Star, one of the most documented UFO events in history, and why it took place just north of the Dakotas at a time when the region’s Minuteman missile bases were undergoing a dramatic expansion.

In the second half of the show, they jump forward to the very latest disclosures about portals between the worlds, what they mean, who has them right now and where this extraordinary story is liable to lead.

Altogether amazing!

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  1. Whitley and Grant Cameron.
    Whitley and Grant Cameron. There is so much to think about in this interview and so very glad this book has finally been published.

    Edgar Cayce on the Light and Dark Forces with John Van Auken in Vacaville, CA

    “As crowded and busy as life is on Earth, the hidden realms are more so. Angels, fairies, the Dark and Light Forces, and elementals inhabit this invisible plane around us. Edgar Cayce himself had the ability to see and perceive these forces, as well as discarnate entities, ghosts, and “invisible friends.” His readings assured us that the Creator could use “a gnome, a fairy, an angel, a developing entity for a guide,” giving us many helpful teachers and friends to walk with us through life’s ups and downs. He also warned of darker forces and unseen negative entities that could create trouble and influence our lives and actions.”

    I would also like to include this article since the dates (years) seem to dovetail this AMAZING Charlie Red Star event.

    Why Do Ufologists Largely Ignore the Most Scientific Field Study of UFOs Ever Conducted?

    by: Dr. Greg Little

  2. Great interview, as
    Great interview, as always.
    Whitley, you and Grant intimated that the visitors and/or their vessels have to do with consciousness. Yet you also referred to hybrids and their DNA, which sounds quite physical. Do you have a sense of how the realms of materiality and consciousness are connected in the visitor phenomena?

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