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First, famed UFO journalist Leslie Kean offers insight into the extraordinary UFO video just released by the Chilean Navy and why the claim that it is a jet contrail cannot be true. Leslie can be reached on FaceBook, and be sure to make a visit to If we ever want to advance UFO study into the mainstream, the UFOData approach is where to start!

Then we start Dreamland’s Year of the Soul with an exploration of the dark side and how to deal with it. Our world is divided in many ways, but at the core it is divided between people of greed and people of compassion, and there are forces drawing us in both directions.

What are these forces? Why are so many people embracing the dark side, and if you are attempting to put yourself in touch with the light, how should you deal with the dark, which very badly does not want you to do that?

Do we reject dark energies, or is there another, deeper way to deal with them?

This week, Whitley explores all of these questions and more with William Stillman, author of “Under Spiritual Siege: How Ghosts and Demons Affect Us and How to Combat Them.” Also, how to tell the difference between negative energies, positive ones and those that are neutral.

Whitley and Bill have both encountered many entities, negative and positive. Listen as they compare notes and explore the hidden world of conscious energies!

As a person with Asberger’s Syndrome and also a psychic, Bill has a unique vision of reality. He has also written extensively on Autism and even on conversations with dogs—which Whitley relates to because of his own deep psychic connection with canines.

William Stillman’s website is

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  1. Bill’s description of how
    Bill’s description of how dark souls who wish to return to the light are dealt with in the heavenly realms (I don’t remember his exact terminology) reminds me of Christ’s parable of the Prodigal Son.

  2. Can’t seem to get this to
    Can’t seem to get this to play – any ideas??

    1. It wouldn’t play for me
      It wouldn’t play for me either. I had to download it.

  3. I’d be curious to hear Jeremy
    I’d be curious to hear Jeremy Vaeni’s take on Bill’s material.

  4. Logged in as a subscriber,
    Logged in as a subscriber, streaming doesn’t work on the mobile or Full Site and the mp3 won’t download on the mobile site either. The only way I found to listen, was to download the mp3 from the Full Site.

  5. I get an error message when I
    I get an error message when I try to play after downloading, so can listen to free version, but…. 🙁

    1. I left clicked on the
      I left clicked on the download mp3 and my computer has a pop up that says ‘open with’ and I used Windows Media Player.

      1. that worked for me, thanks,
        that worked for me, thanks, it was too interesting to miss – these last few shows have been really fascinating!

  6. The subscriber stream is now

    The subscriber stream is now working and frankly, I think that some kind of weirdness is going on with this edition of the show. First, we had all sorts of trouble recording it in the first place. Then, after it was posted everything tested normally. Now I come back and see all these problems. I can see nothing wrong with the stream. Finally, I uploaded it again. Exactly the same file. The original file was on our audio server, and yet when I uploaded it again, it didn’t ask me if I wanted to overwrite. It simply accepted the upload as if the original file did not exist. The upload then covered over the original file with what appears to be the same data.

    And now it’s working. This is as close to supernatural interference as anything I’ve ever seen in the show.

    1. Could also have been Mercury
      Could also have been Mercury in Retrograde.. it officially ended Jan 9th, but you always allow several days beyond that. Anything to do with technology & communications will be effected.

  7. I work with the dark side

    I work with the dark side every day of my life, as I have for 50 years. I love and respect it enormously, but I do try to cut the cards. What it has to offer is knowledge. But you don’t get it by making nice. Unless you approach the dark side with humility and care, you will be eaten. You get the knowledge that working with it offers by being patient, determined and, above all, grateful.

    Working with the dark side is like herding camels. You are not going to win. The camels will win. But you have to be a good herdsman anyway.

  8. Thank you both for this. I
    Thank you both for this. I needed this.

  9. What a wonderful show. I
    What a wonderful show. I recently came out of a very dark period of my life. I was fortunate to have found some amazing teachers that pulled me back into the light. I like the comment from Whitley about the dark side is like herding camels. Being the good herdsman, I am practicing a spiritual aikido that keeps me on my toes. Staying somatically aware and practicing vipassana has helped me tremendously. I can look out over the abyss now and see the dark, but I stand in the light. And for the first time in a long time, I want to be in the light. The red mark in the palm of the hand? Yes, that happened to me. It is good to choose life. Thank you for this show.

  10. After Leslie Kean mentioned
    After Leslie Kean mentioned it, I offered to volunteer with My time is limited, and researchers usually demand more astrophysical or engineering skills than a biologist such as myself can provide, so we will see how much I get involved. I can at least program and do statistics. Anyway, it is worth a try. Thanks to Whitley and Leslie for presenting the opportunity.

    1. TW, I wish you luck on this!
      TW, I wish you luck on this! For years, it has bothered me that different disciplines don’t cooperate more and work with another. While having a specialty is great, overlaying different types of perspectives, and out-of-the-box,thinking is so important. For instance, look at some of the amazing discoveries that have been made through the melding of paleontology, archaeology, and astronomy. You can program and do statistics, but there may be other untapped skills or knowledge that you have acquired through studying biology that could come into play as well.

  11. I find solace in William
    I find solace in William Stillman’s advice to pray/meditate to block negative energy. I find it intriguing that we’re transformed into pure energy with unique ‘fingerprints’ likened to musical notes in the afterlife. I’m working toward being able to return to share that wisdom with loved one when I make the transition. Serious matter, Whitley; great show.

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