Robert Salas was the first Air Force officer to come forward with an account of a UAP visit to a Minuteman missile wing that resulted in the missiles being taken offline by unknown means. Here, he tells that story, but then goes beyond it into his own personal close encounter, with Whitley asking the sort of questions that only he can. This is an amazing, eye and mind opening discussion between two people who have a lot of mutual respect and candor. You will not hear anything like it anywhere else, because Whitley is the only working interviewer who can go as deeply as this into the nature of close encounter experiences, and do it with the kind of warmth and respect that enables his guests to speak their truth. Get your seatbelts fastened for their discussion of their close encounters, including the fact that both of them had needles inserted into their heads…

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    All video and audio were removed overnight. Audio is restored as of 12:15 Pacific. I am told video will be up by 1:00

    1. How about that. A particularly appropriate show for “them” to delete.

      Whitley, you’ve said that the Visitors seem to indicate they won’t swoop in and save us from ourselves, but I hope their control over our nukes means that they will at least force us to pause if we are about to incinerate the planet. This gives me a little bit of hope.

  2. Seems that the “visitors” MUST have earthly bases either underground and/or undersea that they absolutely will NOT let us destroy by nuclear war(s) or otherwise for that matter. Wonderful conversation Whitley and Robert – and thank you for the book recommendation about Suzy Hansen – ordering as I write. Thanks to both of you again.

  3. I enjoyed this show and it’s good to have a relaxed, straightforward discussion about what happened.

    As the rain pours down outside, here in the UK, I’m sitting here with the heating on, listening to ideas that keep me free rather than poison my soul and I thank everyone who allows this.

    This business of the show being removed during the night, firstly thank you UC team for your diligence in getting the show back up. Secondly, I know it’s common for folks to blame ‘the Gvmt’ or ‘secret groups working for the State’, but..

    My current opinion is that arguably it’s more likely that foreign Gvmts and radicalised groups may be more likely to perform such hacking in order to help perpetuate their control over polarisation. They are not likely to benefit from open and honest discussion.

    After all, mind controlled masses suit some Gvmts perfectly. It’s just my penny’s worth, I may or may not be correct but I’m looking at the World readying for war and the re-ordering of its power structures and I see the same twisted, fear-filled minds trying to ruin this garden of consciousness yet again.

    Let’s hope for..

    Peace.

    1. Keeping us polarized and fighting among ourselves may well suit some Visitor factions as well as earth-based governments and groups.

  4. The book by Paola Harris and Jacques Vallée on the Trinity incident is well worth reading (2nd edition preferably, they have more info than in the first). The two boys are not the only witnesses. If I recall correctly, their hypothesis about the recovered material is that it could have been used by the UFO pilots to perform an emergency repair of some sort. So yes, it was most likely man-made, but no, that does not prove that the boys were lying or that the incident was successfully debunked.

    1. The so called debunking might be the Men in Black’s attempt to re-write history. Like the crop circle Doug and Dave gang.

  5. Hi Whitley, I began first listening to you in your interviews with Art Bell. Thank you for this very informative interview.

    I witnessed several different, fairly close-up UFO appearances in the 80s, in the Hudson Valley in New York. I never reported them officially, but one of those, which was apparently witnessed by several others, was featured on an episode of Unsolved Mysteries, in 2000.

    I had considered sharing my experiences with Stanton Friedman, but he’s no longer with us. Who do you suggest that I share these with?

    Thanks!
    Sojourner

        1. We have a fairly substantial Message Board for Subscribers on UC, where all sorts of interesting subjects are discussed, along with quite a few personal encounters.
          https://www.unknowncountry.com/Community/
          You might instead prefer to email Whitley directly, if want to keep the audience to one, for the time being! I’m sure he would also be willing to offer some advice if needed.

  6. What Robert mentioned about a time of synchronisities, coupled with deciding against being recruited further down the rabit hole, certainly rang a few bells.

    About twenty five years ago, I was heavily into thinking about and trying to draw together anything I could find pertaining to antigravity. I had a website related to it all but soon started feeling like the eye of Sauron was swinging my way, when I started to get visits from domains owned by NASA, the US Army, the US Military, Hewlett Packard (of all companies) and even one from Lockheed Martin. That culminated with an email, out of the blue, from someone asking me a technical question about one of my experiments I had posted about…two weeks later came an offer to move over to the States, all expenses paid, to study Antigravity full time. Yep. Apparently it came from a below-the-radar self-made millionaire, who happened to have a keen interest in the subject…or so he said…but my spidey senses were tingling pretty strongly. I won’t go into too much detail regarding sychronicities, but after a very long wait, within a week, I had been presented with three options to chose from. Go back, go forwards, or jump sidewards, further into the abyss.

    I have to admit, my ego was purring…but I trusted that warning in the back of my mind. Some said I was mad but finally, for a whole host of reasons, I chose an ordinary life. Maybe I was just being a chicken(!)…but it felt like there was a great deal at stake at the time.

    1. If you want to rekindle the memories of these good old times, you might want to read “Hunt for zero point ” by Nick Cook. But you have probably read it already (what did you think of it?)

      1. Yes, I read ‘Hunt for Zero Point’ just after it came out. A lot of what was discussed rang true to me, from what I had previously learned. There are many disperate accounts regarding the creation of what appears to be an AG field. But by far the majority rely, fundamentally on a ‘spinning seperation of charges’. The method used to achieve this varies greatly, from mechanical rotation and vibration, to magnetic ‘pumping’, sometimes electromagnetic, or electrostatic, and in occasional examples, using accoustic resonance.

        There are all sorts of cross-over technologies that rely on plasma layers being applied with various combination of pulsed DC and AC voltages, that can effectively be used to create a propulsive (none-antigravitational) force across the surface of a wing, without the need for classical engines…and from what I read from one Patent, this plasma layer can also be used to soak up RADAR like a sponge. So lots of reasons for big-hitters to become interested. It’s not surprising that the German’s might have been playing around with many of these principles…but I’m sure (if not completely perfected in their scary ‘Bell’ experiments), then any knowledge gained was folded tighly into one black-project or another after WWII and exported goodness-knows-where. Well, we probably do know where…Operation Paperclip. Personally, I think the so-called ‘Nazi Bell’ was more related to attempting to create an antigravity field, than it was for Thorium refining. Some of the close-by effects, from what I remember reading, could have just as easily been created by massively premature aging, due to the local manipulation of gravity (time), than anything radioactive.

        1. If any of these technologies work even a little bit, one big mystery for me is how mainstream scientists have managed to ignore them for 80 years (some credentialed scientists did work on antigravity, but they never managed no convince their peers). The U.S. military (and other militaries around the world) surely would want this to remain secret. But still, I wonder if something else is at play. Could it be that mainstream scientists realize that antigravity is connected to UFO, and since “every serious person knows that UFOs are not real”, it must follow that antigravity cannot be real?

          1. Yes, I think the subject of antigravity and its study has been a subversive topic for a long time…the connotations of which are enough to turn most scientists white, with the thought of loosing their funding, lively hood and professional credibility in one fell swoop. That institutionalised attitude has been the nemesis of real open-minded enquiry for far too long. The only ones, generally speaking, willing to entertain that particular externally derided ‘fantasy’, are your so-called unprofessional mad-scientists and engineers…who, unfortunately tend to have no funding whatsoever. However, you hear all sorts of anecdotal tales of engineers hitting the jack-pot, only to find some various three-letter agency breathing down their neck, or stripping bare their experiment-laden garage…or some NDA-cloaked company, buying / patenting the idea, then shelving it…to rot alongside other, equally disruptive technologies. The ramifications of a workable, well understood antigravity technology are enormous…capable of shattering the status quo…a norm, unfortunately, likely worth killing to protect, by those vested in such things.

            Society has been manipulated quite deftly, towards its derision of the UFO and related technologies. I only hope that might change…but you can bet it won’t happen before that technology, its uses and potential misuses, have been hamstrung or curtailed to an extent to be next-to-useless for the freeing of ordinary people from the enslavement of their domestic energy bills…or from the possibility of a foreign adversary gaining even the slightest shift in power because of it.

          2. What mainstream scientists?

          3. Kt_Macleod, if your question is “what mainstream scientists have worked on antigravity”, one answer is Ning Li from the University of Alabama. She has some published papers on this topic, but left the university to work for the DoD (and of course nothing of her subsequent work is publicly available…). You can find out a little more on her wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ning_Li_(physicist)) and in a recent episode of the Micah Hanks program.

  7. Beneath the trendy misguided starseed/hybrid fantasy deluding the ufology and New Age community, truths were discussed here, but misdirected into the relentlessly myopic conception of physical, external beings from space. These beings are regressed humans on the lower astral realm, otherwise known as the Eighth Sphere, and they have dropped off from the organic lifestream of our planet and solar system in their spiritual bankruptcy, whether from extreme materialism, selling their souls for material gain, technology obsession at the abandonment of spirit, or many other things. And our bodies as well as souls are the only means by which they can try to re-enter the human stream to avoid having to start over in the soul’s development, starting with Saturn. This is all esoterically understood and written about and taught and practiced for thousands of years. But our brainwashed materialist times cannot see it beyond the physical, and we have projected our physical likeness onto our gods and beliefs, blinding ourselves to the much richer (but more challenging) reality happening, which is all human, human, human.

    1. Where would one find out about these things you say have been taught about for thousands of years? I mean, these specific things. This rings a bell but I’m not sure where the bell is coming from.

      1. Elene,

        Some of it goes back to Zoroaster in ancient Persia (look up Ahriman). You can also find more by studying Theosophy and Anthroposophy. For a quick look about it, you can see what Rudolph Steiner said about the 8th Sphere here:

        https://frontrangeanthrocafe.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Anthroposophy-and-the-Eighth-Sphere.pdf

        This is pretty deep, heavy stuff, and predates Christianity and its ideas of good and evil. There’s a lot more…but I’ll leave it at that.

    1. Fascinating, but:
      https://theconversation.com/how-we-solved-the-mystery-of-libyan-desert-glass-117253

      Still, the Mahabharata descriptions do sound like the results of a nuclear blast. Yet why would people fighting with nuclear weapons be riding elephants rather than sophisticated vehicles? Could there conceivably have been a meteor airburst at the time of the battle, or was there a memory of devastation caused by one? Or did human imagination stretch to encompass horrors that would not exist for many centuries?

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