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Malaysian Airlines Loses Another Plane In Suspicious Circumstances

Breaking news indicates that yet another Malaysian Airlines plane has been lost. Malaysia Airlines confirmed in a Tweet that it "has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace. More details to follow."

Later reports have now suggested that flight MH 17 was shot down and has crashed near a town in the eastern half of the country. It was carrying 280 passengers and 15 crew members, all of whom are thought to have been killed in the crash.

Reports from newswire Reuters and publication The Telegraph reported that a Malaysian Airlines Boeing aircraft, which was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, “began to descend about 50km before entering Russian airspace, and was subsequently found burning on the ground in Ukraine.”

Anton Gerashenko, an advisor in the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs, posted on his Facebook page that the plane had been brought down by Russia’s Buk missile system.

Associated Press journalists confirmed that a launcher had been seen near the Ukrainian town of Snizhne early on Thursday; missiles launched from the Buk missile launchers can hit targets up to an altitude of 22,000 meters (72,000 feet) and MH17 was thought to be flying at an altitude of 10,000meters (33,000 feet).

The crash site is located in a very volatile area which has experienced terrible battles between Ukrainian forces and pro-Russia separatist rebels over the past few days and there have been other aircraft casualties: a Ukrainian fighter jet was also shot down on Wednesday evening via an air-to-air missile, and a military transport plane was shot down Monday by a missile fired from Russian territory.

Ukraine's president has stated that his country's armed forces were not responsible for bringing down Malaysian Airlines Flight 17:
President Petro Poroshenko says Thursday "we do not exclude that this plane was shot down, and we stress that the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not take action against any airborne targets."

The Malaysian President Najib Razak said ‘I am shocked by reports that an MH plane crashed. We are launching an immediate investigation.”

Plane crashes are relatively rare occurrences, so for a single airline to lose two planes in suspicious circumstances within the space of four months is almost unprecedented. Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared in March whilst en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing and has never been found, though the search to find any evidence continues.

Our thoughts are with the relatives and friends who have lost loved ones on both flights.
 



Just thought this date to be odd when looking back at flight 370….. The crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 coincides with today’s date; Thursday (July 17th). A premeditated event? If so, is there someone out there trying to convey this message?
.....(Just sayin').....

Anne and Whitley. Could the date of March 7th have something to do with the time of the disappearance? (Flight 370).

3=March
7=7th day-----March 7th. (The only article where I saw March 7th mentioned.

http://airchive.com/blog/2014/03/07/breaking-malaysia-airlines-reports-l...

ORIGINAL STORY MAR 7 2017EST:

Breaking news out of Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

Malaysia Airlines announced over Facebook that Subang air traffic control ‘lost contact’ with flight MH370 at 2:40am local time on March 8 (GMT +8 hours), slightly more than six hours ago. The Boeing 777-200ER, registered 9M-MRO, was operating Kuala Lumpur (KUL) – Beijing (PEK), and was due to land a Beijing at 6:30am local time the same day. The aircraft was carrying 227 passengers and twelve crew members, for a total of 239 people onboard.

Either this disaster could be a distraction for something more dire or a handful of idiots in Eastern Ukraine, in possession of anti-aircraft rockets on loan from Russia, confused the Malaysian airliner for an Ukrainian military aircraft. In any case, Malaysian airlines as a company is not in good shape right now given their first disaster and could be targeted by group who has issue with the Malaysian government, whatever grudge that may be.

reminds me of the rocket launcher from a boat mystery to the NYC plane ( flight 370?)...

TWA Flight 800 exploded and crashed on July 17th, 1996. A strange coincidence.

It is doubtful that "Russian Separatists" shot down that plane simply because they don't have the means to. That plane was flying at 35,000 feet and the shoulder launched surface to air missles they have will reach 5 -10,000 feet maximum. To get up to 35,000 feet, you need either a REAL SAM like a big rocket that is radar guided from the ground or a fighter jet. The only ones who have those are the Ukranian and Russian armies. Personally I believe that the Ukranian army shot it down thinking that it was Putin's plane that was in the area right before it.

Just saw a news report that said the US has evidence that a satellite saw a "missile" strike this jet. Why can't they explain what happened to flight 370 then? Pretty weird.

@Nancy Desch
I think the difference is that this was a missile launch and a mid-air explosion, both things we are able to detect militarily. Flight 370 just flew off course for reasons still unknown.

I do find the coincidence of this disaster happening to Malaysian Airlines again disturbing, and to another 777. I doubt there is an intended meaning to it by any group of people, but could it be a warning, which simply manifests in our reality, to not lose sight of the fate of MH370? I know I still see "911" all the time on clocks all these years later-- a definitely disproportionate percentage of the time, as if there's some deep echo that's still resonating through time. Does it link to a future event that will change our world as much or more than 9/11? I don't know, but like I said, it's "disturbing".

No doubt the plane was shot down by a missile. My take is that this was an 'accident' and that the Ukraine separatists thought they were taking down another plane. Ooops. Now what?

Yes, and we all know that the separatists are aided and trained by Russia---Putin is now backed into a corner by both is own people (in general, very nationalistic and would love Ukraine back in the fold) and with being challenged by the U.S. and the rest of the world over what appears to be his direct or indirect involvement in this very tragic incident. Almost 300 innocent lives were wiped out in an instant, men, women, and children. While Putin is not exactly a cuddly teddy bear, I can't believe that he is ok with what happened in any way, shape, or form, and there is no way that he can come off looking like anything but a jerk over this whole mess. This could be one of the biggest challenges he has ever faced, so let the finger-pointing begin.

I was very creeped out when I found out that this was another Malaysian Airlines 777, however. This is a highly strange coincidence.

I have come to believe that the most dangerous thing on this planet is an ideology. Individually, most human beings are quite capable of thinking rationally, of feeling compassion for others, and solving problems without hostility or conflict (I said most, not all), but attached to an ideology, a political party, a nation, or fundamentalist movement of any kind, and the very worst in the human being comes out. When we stop thinking for ourselves, when we stop responding to experiences and situations from our own hearts, we become part of a mindless, and too often, ruthless mass. Without the moderating influence of individual thought, compassion and conscience, we descend into a 'collective madness'. We are no longer truly human . . . not even animal, because animals are not half as dangerous as mindless human beings.

Do you wonder who benefits from ideology? Those in charge. The top dogs. The ones who give the orders. Everyone else serves them. Those who benefit from nationalism or separatism are those who seek power, or want to hold onto it. Those who benefit from political parties are the party leaders, those who want and hold onto power. Those who benefit from fundamentalist movements of all kind - including religious fundamentalism - are the authority figures, the 'upholders of the faith' or cause. The rest of the masses? No more than fuel to warm the leaders' massive egos, fuel to be lit and burned whenever and however best serve the leaders' interests or pet peeves. Fuel to keep the fires of conflict, hatred, prejudice and war alive, to create such perpetual anxiety that no one has time to ask, "What the heck is this for?"

Isn't it time for each of us to stop listening to all the propaganda that's keeping us blind, ignorant or inflamed, and to start thinking for ourselves? Isn't it time, when next you see something on the news, or hear someone make a statement about this or that religion, political party, race or nation to ask yourself, how do I know if this is true? who does this serve? and how do I really feel about this?

My deepest compassion goes out to all of those who are suffering and have lost loved ones because of others' prejudice, hatred, political goals or fundamentalist cause. Truth and goodness WILL, one day, reign in this world, when we have each purged what is selfish, ignorant and deceitful within ourselves, and refused to be part of others' games.

If I wanted to start a conflict with Russia, this is what I'd do:

1: Ensure I had the ability to manipulate existing civilian avtivity in some way.

2: Blame something terrible on Russia, (same old, old, lame tactic).

3: Garner b4llsh1t 'support' for some military action against Russia.

Same old same old...

It is worth pointing out these events from June 5th and 10th, (dry run).

http://rt.com/news/165636-aircraft-disappear-radfars-austria/

IMHO, the EU and US administration are really to blame for bringing that plane down. Slovak Air Traffic Services say in a statement that the phenomena occurred during a military exercise, which took place at various locations in Europe and aimed to disrupt frequencies for radio communications.

I imagine that I shouldn't even have to remind anyone that the Obama administration smuggled 200 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles to Islamist 'rebels' like Isis, (though Jetways are outside and above Stinger range), resulting in the death of US Ambassador Chris Stevens when he attempted to stop this.

The EU apparently wants its ethnic European citizens gone, hence the open door policy of population replacement. A good war would facilitate that nicely, one imagines, leaving the newcomers sitting pretty. Newcomers wouldn't have to go off to fight, probably due to 'religious exclusion'.

I wouldn't p1$$ on the EU if you paid me. The whole World is in trouble folks. Start planning to get out any way you can, or be ready to transform.

Regards;

EU Prisoner
'The Village'...

Remember the Lusitania...As soon as I heard about MH17, my first thoughts were of the Lusitania, oddly enough. We should all take a step back and just observe the MH17 events without being part of them. If you are not familiar with the sinking of Lusitania pull out your history books (or just google 'Lusitania'). This is a different time and circumstances, but it resonates nevertheless.

Here, here, Tosca. Well conceived and well said, as usual.

Anybody think this might be the same plane that disappeared without a trace? I don't think it would be too difficult to load it with the dead passengers fly it remote control over the Ukraine and shoot it down then blame it on "Russian Separatists".

There is always an "incident" that sways public opinion on getting a Country involved in a war. As mentioned above the Lusitania was one, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Ton-kin, 911.

Same plane, same airline....very strange indeed.

Lost...Yes, that idea did cross my mind. Whitley has speculated for a while about the airliner being taken in preparation for a terrorist act. This wasn't exactly what he had in mind, but the possibility is there, although 'remotely'...

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