Even stranger, the camera ceased to work after that. The battery was drained even though I'd charged it the night before, and it could never again be recharged. So all I was left with was the microdisk with the images on it. (Log in to see one of the videos. It's typical of the group.)
The next night, I had what I would describe as a moment of gnosis, in the form of a dream. In it, I found myself looking into a well. The water was perfectly clear, but the bottom of the well was covered in silt. Anne and I wanted something that was there, and were trying to locate it so we could drop a hook and bring it up.
I know I speak for many of us when I say that we do know exactly what you mean. But like you say, so much of this is so thoroughly ephemeral, these states of being that we're becomeing aware of, that we wind up being reduced to using clumsy descriptors to try to convey... this. To the point of not bothering to describe it at all, in many cases. But sharing it, on the other hand, is downright sublime. Not to make this soundlike a shameless plug for the Dreamland Festival, but the majority of attendees not only eminate this state of being, we also get to share in it while in one another's company: it's the real reason why the experience of meeting one another is so special to us.
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For my own part, I can also vouch for that reticent urge: "ordinary" people can seem extremely boring to someone in this state, while interaction with others opening to this state is rich, sublime, invigorating. What interest is there in interacting with the mundane? There are many of us, but we're scattered, making it seem like we're quite alone at times... and it can seem as if no-one is listening. Connection is our new drug... and may we never shake the addiction. ;)
Thank you Whitley, Madd Matt and all of the dreamland attendees. I find it very difficult to share my experiences not because I'm shy ( I'm not) but there are so few constructs in the English language that will convey the depth of differentness of my experience from the masses of people around me. At least at Dreamland I feel connected to others who share that feeling of having experiences that do not fit within the bounds and bondage of a language system. Whitley you come as close as anyone I've ever met who can begin to define the enigma that some of us have had the fortune to experience. To say thank you again is so lame, but say it ...I must. You are our voice when we have not the words.
Thank you Whitley, Madd Matt and all of the dreamland attendees. I find it very difficult to share my experiences not because I'm shy ( I'm not) but there are so few constructs in the English language that will convey the depth of differentness of my experience from the masses of people around me. At least at Dreamland I feel connected to others who share that feeling of having experiences that do not fit within the bounds and bondage of a language system. Whitley you come as close as anyone I've ever met who can begin to define the enigma that some of us have had the fortune to experience. To say thank you again is so lame, but say it ...I must. You are our voice when we have not the words.
Thank you Whitley, Madd Matt and all of the dreamland attendees. I find it very difficult to share my experiences not because I'm shy ( I'm not) but there are so few constructs in the English language that will convey the depth of differentness of my experience from the masses of people around me. At least at Dreamland I feel connected to others who share that feeling of having experiences that do not fit within the bounds and bondage of a language system. Whitley you come as close as anyone I've ever met who can begin to define the enigma that some of us have had the fortune to experience. To say thank you again is so lame, but say it ...I must. You are our voice when we have not the words.
I envy your state of mindfulness that enables the coalescing of that which approaches the ethereal in this reality. I have been struggling to make any progress toward a higher state of understanding during my life thus far. It is empowering that some in our time are making inroads to advance the species. Hopefully lessons can be conferred in manner.
Man, the photo of you really creeped me out at first.
The video: my initial reaction is that "someone", for lack of a better word, did not enter your bedroom, but the opposite. Your bedroom "opened up" to the greater reality surrounding us and the cam caught it.
Whitley and all, thank you for being who you are and open to sharing it with others. I have had some experiences during my lifetime which perhaps are similar. As you say, words are not enough. They cannot give the depth or reality of such experience, just as they fail to give the depth of the experience of being loved unconditionally...BEING loved... for no "reason" except being.
I give 3 aspects using limited words, to describe it:
1. being unattached (to so many "norms of life like results, and understandings, etc) which does NOT mean uncaring it is so different, and so foreign to me that it was a source of fear
2. experiencing oneness...that is...non-separation from all else...? There is a deep connection - an essential piece of how and who we are -i perceive going on...and though you didn't say it, are you experiencing that?
3.being outside of time...which you tried to explain... there is no "time" only the present... the everlasting now.... and i like the use of the word present because there is Presence in being present ... in the now...
Much love and peace to all.... always, and all ways
I want that...
I feel I both understand and relate to this post. In a way, it puts me in mind of a book I read many years ago by the Austrian born hindu monk, Swāmī Agehānanda Bhāratī, called ‘The Light at the Center.’ In it, he describes and details what he calls ‘zero-experiences.’ (Not that I would ever presume to suggest a book to Mr. Strieber!)
And the video is just simply astounding, in my opinion. Thank you for sharing that with us.
After a lifetime of highly odd/anomalous experiences, I still haven't found a coherent way to describe "this". So again, my hearfelt thanks to you Whitley - you always manage to describe (quite brilliantly) the ever-evolving essence of what this journey encompasses. I am so grateful that we have the Dreamland community where we can share our thoughts and experiences. Madd Matt - I too feel that I am "reduced to clumsy descriptors" at times. But as you say, it is indeed sublime that we can share this at least once a year in person, and of course through the chats :)
Whitley - an Autumn event would be great :)
I am getting disturbed right now. The thread of this discussion is very different from the one I looked at this morning. Also, I posted information of something that happened to me yesterday, and it is no longer here. Well, hmmm....
Thank you for taking the time to articulate your experiences, Whitley. I understand how difficult it is to put these things into words. I have been having similar experiences regarding my physical form, which is becoming more and more fluid in conjunction with my shifting perception.
Your post reminds me so much of sages that in the later years have said that they are living in both worlds at the same time.
If we came in boxes, you would find me on the left brain, materialist shelf, though nothing is so clear cut.
I ask questions. Other than that I don't say much, because there is enough talk and I don't feel like I have much to contribute talk wise.
Recently (time?) I have felt more separation union. For example, I like to ride my bike. When doing so, I feel more separate, yet more connected to the process. Maybe it's natural aging, or perhaps I'm seeing more through my third eye or out of body.
There is also some premonition. For awhile, I felt as if I was going to be hurt and worried about a bike accident. It turns out I reinjured my knee pretty good at the playground with my kids. Recovery has been fine, thanks to my physical therapists. I don't feel that worry about an accident so much nowadays.
Maybe this is everyday experience for many of you, and it may or may not be related to Whitley's entry. I just felt like contributing.
You ARE the Kwisatz Haderach...
By your startling vulnerability, Whitley, you have initiated a very good discussion. I feel that in my life I have absolutely tried to close the door to memories of experience which do not fit into the current paradigm I am caught up in: of times when people communicated without words and saw their own thoughts in front of their eyes. Also of lifetimes on this planet in which terrible things happened to me and other people and filled me with depression and hopelessness. My struggle is to be an ordinary person and an extraordinary person at the same time - I seem to flop between both possibilities, and am often disabled by fear. Your comments were very helpful and useful and I thank you for them.
This all makes a great deal of sense. The seemingly opposing forces of light and dark coming together to realise and third transformative aspect. I think back to when I first noticed this gathering; I was more naive, readier to please and try to be liked. As processes advanced, I have become a much tougher S.O.B., more critical, both of myself and others but remain determined to be fair and act logically. Also though, there is something else, something that I sense is a part of me/us outside of the Human personage I/we wear. It feels almost robotic, automated but self aware in a sense that is almost shadowy, lukewarm and ghost like. Mr Strieber's comments about becoming more Hermit-like, to a degree, certainly sounded all too familiar. Roll with it.
Well said, Whitley (and all you other wonderful respondents). In the last year or so I have become disconnected from so much, I am almost unmoored. Most of those things that used to command my attention now seem like shadows, dimly recollected fragments of memories from a film about someone else's life. All that I desire is to join those sorts who understand what is written on this page. And I find myself now able to be loving and compassionate toward others without being attached to the outcomes of their struggles. Some of us will move on soon; many more will have to repeat earth-school yet again.
A fall meeting would be a great idea. If I may suggest, rather than formal presentations from the Dreamland crew, could we all just get together and talk? Just being together will give us the recharge that we need.
I do not agree that death is passive. I feel it probably is more active than we realize here. There is a lot of learning to do.
I'm sorry I do not agree with you on the loneliness part. I feel that that path is a choice. There are other paths that aren't self centered. The only way to attain happiness is to not accept self which can be a bottomless well. But to accept all which is made by love and limitless in its bounty.
wow and i thought i was experiencing these things because i was growing old. thought they were natural changes about people and things that happened with time.
Whitley, I opened an e-mail today sent to me from a friend and felt it to resonate with your new WHITLEY'S JOURNAL. None of this comes from me but from a woman named Peggy Black (Author and teacher). The few paragraphs that I copied over below do however echo my own belief and she says it more eloquently then I could have.
"When your awareness is within your heart, it becomes the portal or the gateway to the non-visible realities. You heart is the doorway and the connection to other streams of consciousness and other dimensions. This is a most important aspect for you to realize and understand. Part of what is occurring within the evolution of humanity is that many humans are beginning to realize that part of their role is to be the INVITER, the physical connection to these higher realms of vibrations and frequencies."
"You are awake and aware, an intuitive in a physical and human form, and you are also an anchor or receptor in your reality, capable of connecting with other beings and forms of consciousness that vibrate at a different frequency. It is time that you acknowledge your ability to interact and reconnect with the energy streams of consciousness offered by other expressions of life."
Now as for me.....
I have always taken Psalm 82:6 literally.
6 I said, “You are gods,
sons of the Most High, all of you.
I have to agree with everything that Whitley wrote, ~ and all of you wrote as well ~ it is very hard to relate with people outside of this tiny circle ~ I'm not sure how to respond further, so I will just leave it at that.... Peace
i am going to write some music for you Whitley if this is ok????
Whitley,
I don't think I understood more than half of what you were talking about, and I'm sorry about that. I wish I could be like these other posters but I can't and there's no sense in pretending. I find that as I get older I look more for the simplicity of things, the bare essence if you will. Maybe that has made me lazy, I don't know. I did agree with you however on the life/death triad. While I don't know what will happen when I die, I do think I will still be me, and that whatever"death" is it will definitely be another great adventure. Your journal brought to mind a random thought I had about a year ago complete with imagery. It was that whatever it is that created life is completely unaware. It is sleeping. When it breathes out, there is life. When it breathes in there is death. There is a rhythm to it, a balance. And in between the breaths... well, maybe that is what you mean.
Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.
The whole point is we are meant to be blind for our own development,for instance i've been through a ton of girlfriends before i married,if i knew who my wife was in the beginning i might well have skipped a bunch of these girls and headed straight for my wife.I would have missed out on a whole range of experiences and lessons i was here to benefit from.Live in the moment,it's all there really is.
From my experience, that third state of being is what I consider the "maybe" state. Sooner or later, the abyss that has manifested in us has expanded the role that Maybe plays in the triad, on an equal footing to Life and Death.
All these things are well stated given the limitations of language. WE are like blindfolded children swinging with short sticks at Piñatas suspended way above our heads. And the Dreamland Festival is sublime in the company of others deep in searching. It takes me a month os so for me to "reintegrate into society" as I call it.
As someone who has experiened the state that you have, I know exactly how it is. The state of experience that you are in, is so great, so much larger than what we are accustomed to in our daily lives, first, there are no words to describe it. There is merely the existence of it. Secondly, because it is so much larger, life, as you normally experience it seems insignificant in that the daily routines and such that seemed to have had significance seemingly don't have that significance anymore. One is so completely drawn into this greater feeling of existence that, after a time, returning to normal life does not seem possible. But, once you return to normal life, it is hard to readjust to such the limited experience we are all so used to. When I reached this objective state you describe after following your guided meditations, and then returning back to normal reality, I felt almost as if I had been reborn again. Every experience was completely new and I cherised every experience like it was the first time I had had it. If this experience mirrors the death that we fear so much, or at the very least it is a middle ground where we are still experiencing our lives, humanity can benefit from such knowledge. We may be at a crossroads now, having the chance to taste the greater whole that we have hidden from ourselves for far too long.