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Mark
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Posted on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 8:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Wife - the part of you that is committed to wholeness, the aspect that desires all aspects of mind - the subconscious and the conscious - to be in alignment.
Dream symbol (husband if you're female}.

If your dreams are reality, how come you don't understand them?

--because they're symbolic.

*dirk clamps his hands over his eyes and runs lalalalalalla!*
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Thomas
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Posted on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 8:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

As any good psychologist knows, many of the things we manifest in our WAKING lives are symbolic of deeper realities we have yet to acknowledge to ourselves.

If this is true in our waking consciousness, how much more true is this in the dreaming state each of us experiences, whether remembered later or not?

That something is also "symbolic" in no way makes it less "real."
“What I perceive, I also create.”

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dirkwright
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Posted on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 9:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Mark, I don't understand them this time because I can't relate to the people or the events that occured. They were foreign to me.

Thomas, thanks for that, but symbolism requires interpretation, which is a function of the ego, according to "A Course in Miracles". The ego is part of the illusion, that's why I do not practice "interpretation" of dreams. They are just events in another reality, that's all. I disagree that something that we interpret as symbolic is no less real. The very act of interpretation is a denial of the reality, of the beingness or presence of the reality. Interpretation denies God, in other words. That's what I learned from "A Course in Miracles" well over 20 years ago.
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Thomas
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Posted on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

In part that may sound plausible, but it also has the hollow ring of a misleading, sophistic argument.

But that is "my" opinion; you, of course, are entitled to your own.
“What I perceive, I also create.”

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susi t learn
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Posted on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

interpret: to explain or clarify the meaning of



we 'interpret' situations or things everyday in our lives. i never read 'a course in miracles' but if the author says interpreting equals denying god, well...i'd have to say bull hockey. that statement makes no sense to me.
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miaree9
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Posted on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I did a little googling of Helen Shucman, the channeler for A Course in Miracles, and found some rather disturbing information. Here is a sentence summing up the disturbing part: "Professional publication data and other material links show the channeling of A Course in Miracles to be covered with the fingerprints of the CIA's mind control program, MKULTRA."
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Skafandr
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

What I want to know is - in the dream I mentioned in my last post in this thread, what is the symbolism of George Bush, my grandmother, a cat, and a dog?
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Jera uruz
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

The powers in the East regard our Western empire as decrepit, aging and as insipid as the hollow attempts at moral authority as the policies of GWB. They intend to start to oust the aging dog in the next year of the cat.

Or you could just ask yourself. There are usually so many levels to dream interpretation that to decide one on alone is to rob oneself of their evolving relationship to the waking plane.

Just as everyone who has the courage to pursue their own instincts and truths regardless of how tiresome it is to others will find a fruition distinct to themselves.

Archetypes are only useful in so much as they are fleeting. We are all all archetypes.

I dreamt of a beautiful water planet again, where the trees grow high into the sky. Just lean into the tree.
Santa is God and Foozball is the devil.

I was a geek, now I'm a level 12 Paladin.
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Skafandr
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 2:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Well the dream stems from my subconscious and unconscious minds, from what I understand, and if this is so, the main point of the dream was probably to combine a whole bunch of unlikely things together and see what happens. I think I have a light-hearted subconscious mind, if it's anything like my conscious mind at least.
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Nina
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 3:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I think dreams are our inner voice speaking to us and using 'symbology' to do so. I do not believe in those books called something like "The Interepretation of Dreams" because I think each of us have our own symbols. I do NOT think every dream has a message for us, some are just nonsense I am sure. But to be blind to the messages our own subconscious can provide for us through dreams is to deny an indepth look at our inner selves.

Who knows why our subconscious just doesn't come right out and tell us literally what we need to know, except that it is known that our dream lives 'act out' situations we do not want to deal with in waking life, hence so many on these boards have 'deams' about their experiences with the greys.

So skafandr, have a think about what each of the elements mean to you personally. If it was me, George Bush would be a dubious, untrustworthy authorative figure; grandmother means unconditional love or family stability; cats are self-absorbed and adept at getting what they want while being sleek and dogs...loyal, trustworthy, fun, etc. Those are MY interpretations of those images, what are your own? Then as you mull over them, try to apply them to a situation in your life and see what the dream may have been trying to tell you. Is there someone dubious, sly, self absorbed (Bush and cat) that you (the loyal dog, perhaps) needs to deal with, but all you want is to be loved (grandma)? That kinda thing. That would be my interpretation for MY dream....you have to find what fits your interpretation of the symbols.

Well that's how I do it anyway...particularly if the same symbols keep appearing in my dreams; it is a sure way for me to know I need to pay attention. Good luck.
"Sometimes we find the message; other times the message finds us, and sometimes we ARE the message."
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susi t learn
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 7:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

nina

i agree with you that the books aren't much help...we each have our own personal symbols. i get alot of celt and indian dreams that wouldn't mean anything to anyone else but me.
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Jera uruz
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Skafandr - that is a dream rich in symbols. The grandmother could also be a symbol of the great mother. Relationships with grandparents are generally less fraught with conflict than those with parents. Houses often symbolize a state of mind or consciousness. How is the being housed? Dogs can represent social aspects and interaction with others. Or loyal guides of the underworld. Cats can be more agile at the underworld and more unpredictable. They can encourage the primal urges over higher aspirations.

Is there someone you should be wary of betraying you?
Santa is God and Foozball is the devil.

I was a geek, now I'm a level 12 Paladin.
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sharLr
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

12th level Paladin? Man, you Paladin's are far too goody-goody. At the moment I'm in two games; I'm a half-elf druid in one and a 'rogue' in the 2nd, both at 6th level. Oh yes, I have released my inner nerd and am enjoying it throughly.

I have been having a lot of house dreams lately. One recent one was set in a mansion in which many 'dead' people were trapped. My job in the mansion was to go about releasing the spirits of those trapped in the house.
Your mind can never change unless you ask it to. Lovingly re-arrange the thoughts that make you blue. Massive Attack - What Your Soul Sings
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Mark
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Skafandr wrote:

I had a rather strange dream last night, as usual!
In it, I was being given a lecture by George W. Bush (??), who was a professor apparently,


A President = spokesman
College - higher learning.

despite the location not being a university (or Bush having a brain). In fact, the location was some kind of wooden dwelling built by a culture from a very warm climate, because the walls were thin like plywood and there was no insulation whatoever - my guess is, the location was somewhere in South-east Asia.

Buildings, houses = the mind

My grandmother was also there, writing about the Buddhist view of death on a blackboard in a hallway.

hallway = transition

Also there was a dog and a cat.

Animals in dream represent compulsive behavior/traits in the experiences of the dreamer.

The dog was a rather elderly looking animal, quite close to its demise, I would think. Despite being frail and old, it was kept in a basket in a dark bathroom in this plywood house. Upon discovering it, and realizing that the dog was probably dying because it was locked up in a dark, cold place like that, I complained about this to someone and eventually took the dog into my part of the house. But the next time I went into the bathroom, there was a cat there where the dog had been, and the cat was staring at me in a rather sly way. And then I woke up.

Analyze that!


While you were being lectured by your representative of higher, spiritual study, you were shown symbols to interpret. You still have to apply these interpretations to your recent waking life.
Has your grandmother passed?
You didn't say.
But the subject she wrote about was death / transition.
What is changing, though?
The house is thin-walled, "no insulation" I think you said...so the mind is not some impregnable fortress, rather it is able to receive impressions from beyond the walls.
Now the dog could be an old compulsive behavior-pattern (of yours) to just lay around - which is getting "old' - don't worry, we all do this to some degree.
Then there's the cat.
If it was my dream, I'd associate it with sensuality, pleasure. This aspect replaces the lazy dog...but be careful you don't shut it away too.
You know what I mean.
"Apply what one knows of the symbols interpreted to the dreamer's probable life situation and circumstances. Without this, the dream symbols are useless. What further aids in utilizing one's dream is to take the dream interpretation and use other mental abilities, intuition, guidance, etc. to form a clear picture of what is going on to bring the dreamer a clear message."
-advice on doing dream readings.





"A dream uninterpreted is a book unread."
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Skafandr
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Well if you put it this way, the dream does have an interesting resemblance to my current life. I am going through a transition revolving around higher-learning - I am taking on a new level of responsibility and work towards fully waking up from the slumber of mankind. My mind indeed has very thin boundaries and my recent work has been to break down the self-created boundaries of the mind to free myself from some old habits/conditions/behavior-patterns. My grandmother has always been a teacher and a role-model for me (she has climbed the Himalayas!), so her writing about death in Buddhism is quite apt (also considering that I am a Zen Buddhist and the current transition is involved with this). And the cat, being one of my favourite animals...I don't know what it could represent, but in the dream it looked like it was enjoying itself quite a bit.

Thank you for the interesting interpretations!

And for the record, my grandmother is alive and well.
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Mark
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Heh, good for her.

well...the bathroom is where we eliminate impurities and clean ourselves up.
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chriscrd
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 1:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

had a couple of good ones recently...last week i had one where i was driving with my father (he's still alive), we were in a rush to go meet someone...seemed to be a ralative or someone we knew...at a place on the bay we used to fish on in real life...but due to road construction and new bridges, i got lsot while driving...we stop in a town so he can get directions...i realize there is a baby in the car in a baby car seat/carrier...i take it out and my father seems undisturbed by the presence of a baby (i have no children nor plan on having any any time soon)...i pick up the baby and realize that it was me as i looked when i was a baby...exactly...and the baby seemed very happy and active...
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Thomas
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Miaree9 said:

quote:

I did a little googling of Helen Shucman, the channeler for A Course in Miracles, and found some rather disturbing information. Here is a sentence summing up the disturbing part: "Professional publication data and other material links show the channeling of A Course in Miracles to be covered with the fingerprints of the CIA's mind control program, MKULTRA."



So disturbing was this to me, in light of my interest in MK-ULTRA and its links to many in the so-called "New Age" and "Human Potential" movements, that I spent several hours this morning looking into what Miaree9 stated here so briefly.

What I found shocking and disturbing was not Helen Schucman nearly so much as her associate, William Thetford, who was reportedly instrumental in encouraging Dr. Schucman to "listen to" the "sub-audible" voice this one-time atheist began to hear "in her head" ca. 1965.

Had Dr. Schucman known the extent of William Thetford's involvement with the CIA and later MK-ULTRA (indeed he headed MK-ULTRA "Subproject 130: Personality Theory" from 1971-1978), I sincerely wonder how much more rigorous this skeptical atheist might have been in questioning what then seemed to be a "spiritual voice" in her head, which she later channeled.

While this does not "torpedo" A Course in Miracles for me entirely, it certainly does make me look at it with new, more jaundiced eyes.
“What I perceive, I also create.”

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chriscrd
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 2:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

another dream experience, also last week...i had dreamnt i worked on a fishing boat and they were teaching me how to do stuff on this boat...the sea was very stormy and we were to fish for eels by dragging some sort of tube along the bottom and i was to guide the eels into the hold of the boat...so we start dragging and a crazy amount of eels were coming up and iw as guiding them in...they were red eels, or maybe snakes but i interpret them as eels because it was the ocean...in the dram i was having fun doing my job but the rest of the crew seemed disturbed by the amount of eels/snakes coming up from the bottom...

in real life, several days later, i had a session with a shamanic healer that i know...after the session, which was several hours, he mentioned some of the things that he saw, and one of the the things he spoke of was that some of the energy released out of me looked like 'red snakes'...

after that session, which was during the evening, i got the first decent sleep i've had in weeks, as i cannot sleep well for a long time now...the only dream i had that night was that i ws driving cross country on an exotic racing motorcycle (i'm afraid of motorcycles in real life) and everywhere i stopped to rest or get gas, people seemed amazed by my journey...saying how far i've come...in some of the places my father seemed to be there either looking on or escorting me...
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Thomas
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 3:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Regarding the possible connections between MK-ULTRA and A Course in Miracles, I set up a new thread on that (for whomever might be interested), here, in order not to derail this thread.
“What I perceive, I also create.”

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brown
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 6:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

lol.. Mark #846 umm you might look up the dictionary meaning for the word "chauffer"..huh.
Initially when I read that dream you posted gotta say that parts of it struck me as kinda 'odd'. I was at the beach late last Friday afternoon..but only the sparrow knew why I was there.
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Mark
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 1:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

chauffer - Fr. stoker, to heat
Chauffeur, I meant.
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phoenix999
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 2:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Animals in dream represent compulsive behavior/traits in the experiences of the dreamer.
Bleech, so Freudian and you know what he would say about that -
When she turned, I saw she wasn't the same one as my chauffer...uh,
"If I've made a mistake, do you think God will make a mistake? God will take care of things." -
- Padre Pio -
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brown
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 6:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

sometimes a typo is just a typo..

I dunno what this means but several times I've been asleep and heard knocks on the door wake up but it isnt real.
Happened again just recently..I was totally convinced that it was real. This is like 3 - 4am in the morning..it isnt funny !
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susi t learn
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 6:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

had a dream about austrailia. i knew it was that country because i heard the word 'emu'. it was dark at 3:30 in the afternoon. it was some kind of natural disaster. but could be berghaus' post influenced me.

then i heard the name 'sue ellen'.
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Cosmic Seeker
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 7:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Funny you said 'Sue Ellen', Susi.
Sue Ellen was my first girl friend... and I live in Australia... I know that's drawing a long bow.
I have also heard knocks at night, like Brown. Sometimes it sounds like people are walking around the house, but no-one is ever there.

Another sound I always hear is like a cat licking its paws. My old cat, Ginger, used to lick her paws and make the same sound...she passed away several years ago.
“Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans”
-John Lennon.
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Nina
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 7:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

brown, I get the knocks too, and sometimes hear the phone, but it never rang.

susi, it was very dull in the afternoons when the smoke haze was covering the city last week.
"Sometimes we find the message; other times the message finds us, and sometimes we ARE the message."
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brown
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oh great.. so I'm not the only one getting woken up in the middle of the night :-)
Actually the recent episode was 'different' because just prior to 'hearing' the knocks ..there was a dream in which I was outside a house watching a man approach the house. He looked like he might be 40-60's not old but light or greying hair..business like.
Then I am aware of hearing knocks on the door so I am awake.

Thats weird huh like I was outside in the dream observing ..then I am inside and woken up by imaginery knocks on the door. The house in the dream was definitely not this house.
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Berghaus
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 7:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Susi, this could very well be another warning though I understand how we can influence one another.

Gut feeling tells me that your ancestry and lineage allows you a strong, living connection to the spiritworld.

If something is unfolding, we'll know soon enough but this is why it's better to speak out and warn folks who have a chance of getting away from danger.

Godbless, Susi.
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susi t learn
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 7:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

cosmic

where does sue ellen live?

nina

what city?

berg

the only thing that makes me take notice, is i heard the word 'honshu' months before they started having a series of quakes. it's still a hot spot. so i know when i 'hear' things, i should take notice.
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Cosmic Seeker
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 7:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Sorry, Suzi, I am out of touch with Sue Ellen. Last time I heard she lived in Melbourne...or perhaps Adelaide...now married to my former best friend.
“Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans”
-John Lennon.
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susi t learn
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 7:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

i was just curious if she lived in the area berg saw.
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Nina
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 7:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Well, I don't want to put ideas into your head, or mine for that matter, but....

In one of the books about Betty Andreasson she relates a couple of stories where the phone rings at the end of a middle-of-the-night abduction, which she (or her author) saw as a distraction so she would forget the abduction immediately. Then Whitley talked about the three knocks on the side of the house as a prelude to an abduction - he was awake when he heard them but it was late at night(I think).

My phone 'rings' and I wake up. I hear knocks and I wake up. I hear my name called and I wake up. I have, many times, clearly heard my name called in dreams so vividly that I reply and wake myself up. Oh, and then there is the big bang...that wakes me up sometimes too or the big flash of light, although that one will generally occur when I am almost asleep.

These things probably mean nothing, but stories such as Betty's and Whitley's make me think that sometimes there is more going on in the night-time hours than we know.
"Sometimes we find the message; other times the message finds us, and sometimes we ARE the message."
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dirkwright
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I had a very interesting night, though I wouldn't call my experiences "dreams". First, before I fell asleep, I felt a strong emotional connection and had a visualization about an old man passing on. He was a WWII vet and had on a brown bomber jacket and a hat. He was being welcomed. I welcomed him. Then this morning I read about President Ford dying. hmmm...

I heard a voice that said "it's too late". I said something about "what?" and they said "because we know"...I haven't a clue what they were talking about.

I remember embracing a woman during an OBE. We were in our light bodies. It was very nice to be close.

I remember playing with a baby on the floor, and I accidently nipped his arm with my teeth. I apologized. He sat on my chest and he seemed very familiar to me. He was very wise and showed me a bug bite on his other arm and said that the poison killed him. So this was a child that had died...

I was talking with a woman whose husband was overseas in the military and has been gone for about a year.

That's all I can remember right now.
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Berghaus
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 8:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Dirk, have you ever tried sleeping the wrong way round in bed, ie, head at the foot of the bed.?

It's one of many techniques for gaining more and more focus and memory in-dreaming.

One of the best, though a little anti-social and, I concede, weird, is to sit hunched in a silent, pitch black room with a blanket over one's head for an hour before bed. Works a treat.

Try that now and again before bed and you'll soon access higher and higher memories. It does look a bit crazy though.
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Cosmic Seeker
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 8:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Don't worry Suzi, I am over Sue Ellen.
Anyway, Berghaus saw NE Australian and Pacific Islands. That's a long way from me. But people like travelling north because of the tropical climate so this name could be anywhere. Quaint old name 'Sue Ellen'. People don't use it any more to name their kids.
“Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans”
-John Lennon.
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dirkwright
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 8:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Berghaus, thanks for the tips. I must have awakened 3 or 4 times last night, each time remembering a dream experience. I use my energy flow to carry me to higher levels of consciousness. I like the brainwave CD's too, like hemi-sync, etc.
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Cerridwen
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 9:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

wait, you mean huddling in a room with a blanket over yer head in the dark is antisocial? who knew? ;)

i sometimes wonder if there are multiple types of "symbols"...i know there are different types of dreams for me...like lucid, or more symbolic, anxiety, and the basic "garbage in/garbage out" processing. and if we have both our own symbolism AND tap into a more universal set of symbols too...
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phoenix999
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

"sometimes a typo is just a typo.."

I agree, and sometimes a dog represents social aspects and people that may cross your path. Sometimes a cat represents the more primal aspects of instinct over higher aspirations.

I get the three knocks alot too and hear people walking around upstairs. Then all my hair stands on end.

Last night I dreamt I was speaking in front of a large group, telling them about how I was switched at birth.
Another group of people gave me a baby to feed; I had to find the right formula for it. There was some in a bakery across a busy street. First I had to cross at the only set of lights where a very bossy cross guard worked. She was only letting people across three at a time. She grabbed me and tried to stop me but I jerked out of her grasp and pretended to obey then snuck away when she wasn't looking. I found another spot on the road to cross. When I got to the bakery, they'd put the price up just to gouge customers during the lunch hour, so I went home and invented a formula.
Then the baby grew at impossible speed and was too big to carry around. Some family on the periphery of the dream was going broke from living on credit debt - and I was helpless to do anything about it, the baby became theirs.
Then I went let the dog out not on a leash. But he didn't run away or go too far, he just did his thing and came back.

Lots of weirdness.
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phoenix999
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

"12th level Paladin? Man, you Paladin's are far too goody-goody. At the moment I'm in two games; I'm a half-elf druid in one and a 'rogue' in the 2nd, both at 6th level. Oh yes, I have released my inner nerd and am enjoying it throughly."

Rogue sounds fun.
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Bran
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 5:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I'd like to find some way to help me with my spotty recall. I think my wife already wonders about me a bit and I'm not quite sure how she would take a 180 degree turn in sleeping position or the blanket trick. I would also worry about the emotional scars the latter might leave on my children.

"Fools will be fools and wise will be wise
But I will look this world straight in the eyes."
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 6:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Bran, sleep with a stone from a favoured place on your throat.

Gently secure it with a ribbon or soft linen.

To be fair, it's not the stone or the excercise, it's the effort, the intent.

Bran, you will remember.

I suggest listening to French band Air's 'Moon Safari'.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 7:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Last night I was dookin' it out with some of my past demons...I hate that

Susi, I was referring to Melbourne, a long way from the north.
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Bran
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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 5:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Thanks Berghaus. . . that makes sense.

"Fools will be fools and wise will be wise
But I will look this world straight in the eyes."
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Krystal Gale Potter
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Oh I was'nt sure where to post this. Dave had an odd dream last night.

He drempt he was riding a bus. He looked out the window and there was a black plane..kind of like a stealth type plane but not exactly. It lost control and crashed. Just before the crash it had exploded. The bus driver stopped the bus and immediately MIB's came out the bushes and started saying "There's nothing to see here, keep moving". The bus driver tried to take a picture but the MIB's would not let him. They had to get back in the bus and keep going. Shortly down the road, another black plane crashed. Everyone got out of the bus and when they went to look, the crash site scorch area was only about the size of a campfire. they began looking for metal and the pieces of the plane they found were not hot and were surrounded by tall grass..like they had been there a very long time. Dave told the bus ddriver that something was not right. that it looked like they were caught in a time loop. then the MIB's came and told them there was nothing to see and to keep moving. They said there was no time loop that the crash had just happened, but there was nothing to see so keep moving. Dave thought "They got to the crash sites so quickly..like they were already there and already knew the planes would crash."

End of dream.
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 7:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Last night, I was walking through the tightly packed streets of a European town. The houses were all very close together and the road narrow. There was a spot where two houses met at different heights. One roof angling into the side of the next house which rose above it by a floor so that a right angle was formed. There against the black night sky a massive white moon cast light around the whole globe. It seemed impossible that a 'moon' that I caught only a side glimpse of could cast such a bright light so far. I could only see a part of it because of the houses. But seeing it, was exhilarating; like catching a glimpse of the light of love itself. I'm attempting to recall the rest, but it seems to have receded into the murk of sub-conscious.
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sharLr
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 9:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

A European town? How do you know? Do you mean somewhere with a Spanish/Italian feel to it maybe? Got my curious head on today.
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phoenix999
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 9:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Heheheh, curious head, that's cute. It just looked European. Older houses, from a couple of centuries ago. This one wasn't so much Spanish as maybe Italian.
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slw
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Krystal, Your post about the dream of black planes caught my attention, hence the following.

Last night I dreamed of a black helicopter deliberately crashing into some type of university medical school. The helicopter would tear up the side of the building with stones and bricks flying but no harm would be done to the helicopter. It would fly up and dive back into the school. The black helicopter had a white star type emblem on the side/back of it. The star was similar to this * but had more points. Does anyone know what type of helicopter has an emblem like that, if any? I've looked on the internet but can't fine it.

phoenix, That's an interesting dream. "Light of love around the whole globe"! That would be nice!
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 6:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Slw, this star, would you say it was six or eight pointed.?

All I can throw in here is that six pointed stars relate to Ishtar/Venus and eight pointed stars are associated with the Essenes.

If indeed the star was eight pointed, you may find THIS of interest.

Phoenix, that's a whoppingly powerful journey you took in your energy body there. Wow.!

The subtle light of the Moon, while dim to us, usually, is seen in it's/her full briliance while journeying in one's astral body.

Phoenix, have you been spending lots of time in personal reflection and meditation lately.? Been reading a lot perhaps.? You're in a priceless zone of pooled harmonised energy, keep on going with it. Awesome.