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quigs
Senior Member Username: astralgazer
Post Number: 1310 Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 9:49 am: |
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Had a dream someone was stalking me from the board. I would find things out of place around my house and I received odd notes in the mail. Then my dream turned into me holding a baby and I knew it was mine. I was cuddling with it when a bald man punched me in the head and took it from me. I chased after him but I couldn't catch him. I woke up very, very angry. Not a good start to the day. "There may be a better world coming babe but what if this is the only one?" Ethan Daniel Davidson
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Damon
Member Username: damon
Post Number: 93 Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 8:32 pm: |
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Mama Shine - found that recipe, going to give it a try this weekend.  “There are many things in life that will capture your eye, but very few will capture your heart. These are the ones to pursue. These are the ones worth keeping."
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starspirit
Senior Member Username: starspirit
Post Number: 1732 Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 9:43 am: |
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Dreamed it was a time of planting seeds. a time of the sun? Folks held the earth in square planters and the seeds planted formed shapes/patterns within. Then gazing upon the ocean I saw geometric shapes and patterns underneath the waves. |
   
John
Senior Member Username: john
Post Number: 559 Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 8:55 pm: |
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i dreamed of a new lover last night. some one that came and comforted me. built me back up made me strong. made me what i could be for them. accepted me for me only asking for love in return for they loved me unabandonly as i did them. lovely dream then the tap tap tap of reality came knocking on my door at 7 this morning and i had to wake to a new life today to say good bye to the old. entered a day of being strong and on my own for he first time in a long time. then i went back to bed and had lucid dreams of geomitry. woke at 2 this afternoon and still felt strong and good. dont you love the night life sometimes? |
   
susi t learn
Senior Member Username: etsi
Post Number: 4797 Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 8:27 am: |
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weird one last night... i dreamed of a man named peter allen. i know there's a musician, peter allen, but this guy was a lawyer professionally and an artist on the side. i went to his home and he was painting a nude-the model was reclined on a sofa. then i was in another dream where i was walking down the stairs of a building which i felt to be a nursing home or home for the mentally handicapped, something like that. i made it to the street and was back in the first dream, standing on a corner trying to remember where peter allen's home was. a woman walked up to me and was speaking but i couldn't understand her because she had roots of some plant growing out of her bottom lip! i have no idea what to make of all that. i do have some weird ones. |
   
Berghaus
Advanced Member Username: berghaus
Post Number: 278 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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Let it all go Susi babe. Just roll with the punches and keep smiling inwardly about it all. Keep on keepin' on... We have such similar trips Susi; and hey, what a wild bus, eh.? Be good, as always, and look forward to THIS |
   
j
Advanced Member Username: observer
Post Number: 284 Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 2:23 pm: |
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I wonder if she was related to the green man? |
   
Hale
Senior Member Username: hale
Post Number: 540 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 12:27 am: |
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I dreamed that one of the central pieces of equipment I use in my work (okay, it is a glass melting furnace) was suddenly moved into a new space, completely different building and location. I was standing there looking on in amazement at the very heavy piece of equipment over in the corner of this building. It was in fact enclosed in a kind of futuristic surround. It was some kind of glassed-in enclosure. I could get in and out very easily. There were gaps around the wall where this thing came up to the walls. It was in a cornerof the building. The surround was more rounded. I went into the enclosure and was looking at how weird the furnace looked in this new place. I then saw a bench where I work and sat down. As I did this, a man walks up to me and says how he wants to introduce some people to me. They are women and they do not speak English. They are foreigners. I say a simple hello to these women and shake their hand in greeting. I notice something about their handshake. It is just way too soft. More than just a cold fish, you know? It gets me wondering for a moment, even in the dream. Something about that shake was not quite right. But, being a dream, of course I continue on with it..... This is where I do my work, and before I know it, these women are now engaged in making work with me. We are all sitting around on benches making glass, except it is very very small stuff. Something does not seem right to me. I can't quite put my finger on it. I wish I could have. I suspect it could have meant a breakthrough. I have suspected as much. Now I have to see if I can bring these elements more into a lucid state so I can stop and say "wait a minute, this needs further attention; what is being glossed over here?" I notice that beyond the enclosure, there is some kind of hood or large panel, which is metallic. Perhaps it was a large display. On it were a series of gauges which seemed out of place to me. I seem to be talking to some techie about this other part of the building. Seems to be male, but I do not have a very good memory of actually seeing "him." Personally, I think it is a cover for something else. Time for me to dig deeper. Maybe the real work is not glass at all and involves some kind of foreigners....... "No Guru, no method, no teacher, Just you and I and nature"- Van Morrison
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buddie
Senior Member Username: buddie
Post Number: 2954 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 6:47 am: |
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Intuition Hale Qua da di
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dirkwright
New member Username: dirkwright
Post Number: 32 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 8:22 am: |
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That sounds like a very significant dream Hale. bravo. I've been having strange dreams, unpleasant dreams, dreams about cigarette smoking and prostitutes, and all-night partying and drugs and such. I don't normally dream of these things, dark things. One thing I can say though is that the house that I normally find myself, which is the house I grew up in, may soon no longer be my own. I commented in my latest experience there that I desired a place of my own, a different place. I'm not happy with what I have there now. |
   
Bran
New member Username: bran
Post Number: 13 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 4:05 pm: |
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Hale, I notice that a couple of times you mention things being not quite right. Does this mean there's a sense of unease? Is there a chance that outside agents are attempting to mislead you in something that is central to your life? Your dream--your intuition (obviously). I simply say what pops into my head. |
   
Ninanna
New member Username: numen
Post Number: 45 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 4:57 pm: |
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Had a fabulous dream of combing the Arctic on my specially designed flying ski-doo looking for usable refuse to give to the needy. Then I saw this big machine that, when aimed at a planet, infiltrated the magnetic shield at the pole. It went right into the core and sucked the shield out until it was completely depleted. At which point the planet kind of implodes upon itself. Then it's reterraformed and new life is put on it. |
   
Hale
Senior Member Username: hale
Post Number: 543 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 9:50 pm: |
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Bran, no I think you are likely on to something, and saying what pops into your head can be a good thing all things being equal. I think that in some ways some of what I am dreaming mirrors or echos concerns in my waking. Right now....well, for the last six months anyway, I have been feeling like something is up (something is) and I often struggle to scratch away to see what it is it is trying to tell me. You know? Like so much coded symbology. For whatever reason, my dream self decided it might be better to dream this stuff in some kind of code instead of stepping forward and just letting it fly. I have been going through some older dream journals, and for whatever reason, things did not seem to be as encoded as they are now. Maybe hindsight and that 20/20 thing. I DO feel like something is being hidden slightly. Maybe veiled. And so I get this hunch that I am not getting at whatever it is that I am dreaming.....in more or less straightforward language. But when I felt their hands in the dream, I thought,"my, this does not feel right" which is to say the image had something about it that my gut (or intuition as buddie suggests) had a hard time abiding with. Perhaps I KNOW. But why hide it? Maybe something about my mindset. Maybe I am working through something I am not completely aware of. Maybe a new paradigm for me, who knows. I'll tell you that I got he feeling that the whole things was made up.....a mixing of images for whatever reason, but I was not seeing the real thing it was all about. Do you know what I mean? I guess you had to be there. The enclosure looked like it could have been something else entirely. Soft hands. Too soft. Foreigners. I'll shuddup now. Starspirit, was just reading an earlier post about the buffalo wheel. I'd say that for me, it is a kind of returning of some things related to that, definately. Perhaps in some way (again, to my mind), it is a call to a way of being that we could all benefit from. The concept of the circle or wheel is inclusive. It contains everything (in the native way). I have been grappling with how to tap this sense of returning to some more basic source.....some (hopefully) returning sense of self that is part of that larger kingdom. I "had it" back in September, and then it kind of zipped away unexpectedly. I think I was being shown what was possible if I just looked in the right way. Ninanna! Wow. After all the energy stuff I have been mulling, that dream was like a depth charge in my mind. I think there is certainly something there you are on to. "No Guru, no method, no teacher, Just you and I and nature"- Van Morrison
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Hale
Senior Member Username: hale
Post Number: 544 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:00 pm: |
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You know, Dirk, I can say from meeting you that aside from all the stuff in your life, I get the feeling like you are certainly in the midst of change. Perhaps even a mindset change....some kind of shift. Perhaps the "dark" stuff is a kind of threat to your normal way of living. Maybe some kind of confrontation between two different worlds, or sensibilities. You see, I too say what pops into my head. Poing! I'll shut up now. "No Guru, no method, no teacher, Just you and I and nature"- Van Morrison
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Southern Cross
Senior Member Username: jolinda
Post Number: 1841 Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 11:32 pm: |
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Hale, have you considered that "foreign," could also mean "alien"? It would make sense. When the human mind encounters something that it needs to categorize, and that something is way beyond anything similar, the mind tends to "see" it as the best "match" to something else that it already knows. |
   
Mark
Senior Member Username: mark
Post Number: 823 Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 11:52 pm: |
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Had a dream last night where this big cat - a lioness - is in the living room, walking across the carpet.The locale seemed like a house where I used to live. There was a feeling of risk (caution required) in this dream - a natural air of respect being appropriate. When she walked away from where I was, I could see the mane of a male lion, though. So, I casually rolled the ball I had across the room. In typical aloof cat-fashion, she picked it up and dropped it so it rolled in my general direction. So the animal spirit guides are back. |
   
John
Senior Member Username: john
Post Number: 561 Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 4:52 am: |
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ya its time for them. active animal guides on my end as well. but so many I cant keep up. I try to find or make things that represent the lessons of spirit or dream or even real time what ever that is. and I am a little behind. but working on geometry in the paper folding is keeping me going and inspiring more dreams too. |
   
dirkwright
New member Username: dirkwright
Post Number: 38 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 7:53 am: |
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Thanks Hale. I've already gone through a lot of change in the last year. I guess there's more to come...sigh... I went to bed very sad and angry over the fact that I don't have the kind of loving relationship that I want, and that I don't know if I even have the spare time to have one. I woke up about 2:30 with the memory that a friend named J said she had something she wanted to give me but had not been able to do that because I wasn't able to receive it. I listened to my CD for an hour, then went back to sleep. I dreamed of being in a bathroom and getting cleaned up and J was there trying to talk to me, but it was noisy so I couldn't hear her very well so I was yelling over the noise that I couldn't hear her, so she left a couple of things and walked away. She gave me a large bill fold, larger than a normal wallet, and an air mattress. Then I walked over to the lounge and found everyone sitting around a TV. I touched J and told her that I wasn't angry but that it was noisy in there and I couldn't hear her talk. I then sat down on the floor by her feet and watched the TV. Someone commented that my toes were so long that I could work cross word puzzles with them. A show like AFV was on, and it was showing funny sports accidents, and some guy caught a football and it landed right in his crotch, and me and J looked at each other and had the same thought at the same time: "ouch, that's going to hurt!". We smiled and then I woke up. I can't say enough what a fantastic experience it is to have the same thought at the same time with a woman. It's just wonderful to be that close, since I've been feeling really lonely. It felt really good to be with my soul group too, very comfortable and loving. I need that. Thanks J, where ever you are. |
   
Bran
New member Username: bran
Post Number: 14 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 10:18 am: |
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Ninanna, Purveyor of Depth Charges, I have to echo Hale's wow. Actually, when I first saw your post yesterday, I thought of responding with a simple "Wow!" but it seemed too inane, so I opted for the stunned silence. Then I had to search for more of your posts and came upon the Cloudbusting post over on "Juicy Songs" and Seaweed Gate's link to the video. . . highly recommended as a supplemental depth charge. |
   
Bran
New member Username: bran
Post Number: 15 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 10:27 am: |
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Mark, I had a similar dream recently. We had a panther for a "pet." Very friendly. . . I remember her coming up to me to get rubbed behind the ears. But the sense of caution was DEFINITELY there. It's odd, but although the dream had a strong sense of sit-up-and-pay-attention power to it, it never occurred to me before reading your post to think of it in animal guide terms. I was thinking more in terms of regular dream symbolism. . . whatever THAT is. . . Yes. Animal guide makes sense. |
   
Hale
Senior Member Username: hale
Post Number: 550 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 6:46 pm: |
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quote:Hale, have you considered that "foreign," could also mean "alien"?
Well, that was what I was eluding to in subtle fashion. I had the distinct impression that what I was seeing was not what I was seeing, if you know what I mean. Maybe my psyche is playing a game with me, knowing the images used are so darned obvious but too bored with the literal to deal with presenting it in that way. It's another dream on top of others over many years (like 20 yrs.) where I feel like I am living some other life....and I suppose at some level I am. Mark, with a dream like that, PRAY you do have a ball of string, or maybe a zebra thigh bone or something. "Here kitty kitty kitty!" Meow (not making light of your dream---it was in fact quite cool in a cautious watch-the-big-cat sort of way). "No Guru, no method, no teacher, Just you and I and nature"- Van Morrison
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Southern Cross
Senior Member Username: jolinda
Post Number: 1847 Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 7:58 pm: |
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Hale, your dream reminded me of another dream I had recently about seeing a little girl, who was a projection of an alien, which is why I commented on it. Recently I've been reading that some souls incarnate in multiple bodies at one time to work out karmic issues faster. I wonder if it's possible, or likely, to be having an alien incarnation at the same time as an earthly one. |
   
Jera uruz
Member Username: numen
Post Number: 95 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 8:14 pm: |
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That's neat SC, I mostly look like a little girl traveling around in wherever that is we go... One time when I was falling asleep, it felt like my whole spirit had become sand and it was pouring out of my head at an alarming rate. I jolted awake scared saying - that's too far.... Wyrde Santa is God and Foozball is the devil.
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dirkwright
New member Username: dirkwright
Post Number: 46 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 8:25 pm: |
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Well, I have read that souls incarnate in multiple bodies all the time, but I have no proof or experience of such. The only place I read it was in Lisette Larkins books. I don't recall Bob Monroe talking about it, or anyone else. I have a couple of books on souls, so I can check it out later. |
   
Southern Cross
Senior Member Username: jolinda
Post Number: 1848 Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 9:07 pm: |
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In his first book, Monroe wrote about how he would find himself living the life of a person who he thought was existing on another planet. Numen, Do you remember where you went after the sand incident? |
   
Jera uruz
Member Username: numen
Post Number: 98 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 10:25 pm: |
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No, sorry, I don't remember that one. One of my neatest dreams though, that was definitely a traveling dream, was with my dad; who's crossed over. He hugged and hugged me and it was very tactile. Usually in dreams I don't have much memory of tactile sensation. I hadn't mentioned anything, when my son woke up and said he'd been hugged by my dad too. It was right here on earth in my own city but the dimension was different. There was construction that wasn't there on our plane. We just went for a long walk together like we used to do in life. It was earth, but different. I remember that one clear as day. He's also the one that showed me the huluppu tree. He's a mathematical genius. Santa is God and Foozball is the devil.
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Hale
Senior Member Username: hale
Post Number: 554 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 12:45 am: |
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SC, now that is a thought. Projections. After having been through what I have been through with past life stuff, my concept of reincarnation has shifted. Also of time. While we are perceiving it here in a certain way (what we call linear) at a certain point the higher self sends parts of itself throughout time from a place that is a timeless state, an expanding present. I don't see lives as being neatly ordered one after the other. They can and do overlap. I say this because in one memory of a past life it wasn't past at all (even though it was around the early colonization of Indian Territory). I was able to interact IN the "memory" but the deeper truth was that as I went back, my past self also went forward and peered into my world which would be in the future. It was not just a recording on a tape playing. It was an interaction, and in some ways it was limited in what I was able to do, but I was able to do some. Sometimes we do incarnate in multiple bodies at once time wise. I have a guy who looks like a Seik or something that is alive now and who I pop into from time to time. When I say "into" that is just what I mean; into. It always messes me up because I do not know it is him until I see his hands or see him/me in a mirror. He looks completely different from me, but the "feel" inside of him is very similar to my own self. He is older than me by about ten years. How is that for weird. Then there is that other self that is off planet, who is even closer aligned, but I wont bother going into that. One can have a twin soul. I don't talk about it, but I see it as essentially someone who is so closely aligned that we are almost like the same person. This I understand to be a reincarnational self in another place but in about the same time frame as now (at least this is what I assume since I have not met my Seik guy face to face nor my twin way out yonder---in a physical way---only through projections and dreams and sometimes through some other method I don't really quite understand...maybe like remote viewing perhaps), with a connection that is unusually strong.....and I suppose others use different words or terms for it (soul mate or whatever the terms used). Sorry for wandering. At a certain point, though, we are all connected. The psyche is designed to act as a filtering device. I'd say it is possible to get into just about anyone's head if the right filters are removed from your self to allow it to happen. I know that sounds Big Brother-ish, and I don't mean it that way at all. We have, I believe, a wondrous potential for contact and communing as the beings that we are. Often, sadly, we shut down and filter. On the one hand it can be survival, but on the other, I think it can also be survival, too, as it can lead one to a greater sense of how everything is related, what the Lakota call Mitakuye Oyasin (Me-Tok-Way). When you are busy destroying your world, a little dose of connectivity sure would be a nice thing to have to help generate perspective. Well anyway..... Time for sleep and perhaps a dream. You guys have such groovy dreams. The sand, now THAT was neat, but I think it would scare the you know what out of me. Didn't I say I needed to get to bed? zzzzz "No Guru, no method, no teacher, Just you and I and nature"- Van Morrison
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Mama Shine
Senior Member Username: mama_shine
Post Number: 811 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 1:44 am: |
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Hale, I wish I had my books. Didn't Jane/Seth talk about counter-part selves. There was a lot about that I wish I could recall. Like a bolt out of the blue, Fate steps in and sees you through.....
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Mark
Senior Member Username: mark
Post Number: 830 Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 1:45 am: |
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A Dr. Fred Bell on C2C last night said life is a hologram - it's a wave - and also it's smaller packets. The packets are like a hologram in that they contain all the qualities of the Wave. So Blake sees the universe in a grain of sand... |
   
Nina
Advanced Member Username: nina
Post Number: 335 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 4:27 am: |
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I am having train dreams again. It is either trains or planes I am trying to catch or have been let off at some unknown place. The most recent train dream involved leaving my kids at one station trying to hunt up the right train to get home on. The trouble was I got lost and couldn't find my way back, and I was aware that soon the trains would be stopping for the night and what was I thinking, leaving my kids alone at the other station? Luckily it disturbed me enough to wake up...I hate these dreams. "Sometimes we find the message; other times the message finds us, and sometimes we ARE the message."
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buddie
Senior Member Username: buddie
Post Number: 2996 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 5:07 am: |
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Nina OMG..my dream last night was..I was at a party with a friend from work..the owner of the company was there with all sorts of people..these people were dressed up to the nines..I went to the washroom and one of the people brushed my shoulder but to me it was as though someone slammed into me really hard.I said you must be very strong because that hurt but I know you just brushed me. She said in her head something like,oh I have to be careful 'we' are stronger than they are 'we' are not from here.I picked up on her thoughts. Then I could see all these people were really not us just disguised as us.The owner of the company included..then I panicked and my friend and I left the party but on the ride home there were flying 'trains' all over the place and people were looking up at them except my friend couldn't see them..Ohhh it was a messy busy and confusing dream.. Qua da di
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Nina
Advanced Member Username: nina
Post Number: 336 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 5:34 am: |
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ACK! Flying trains...yes I have dreamed of them! "Sometimes we find the message; other times the message finds us, and sometimes we ARE the message."
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Cosmic Seeker
Intermediate Member Username: mikelmn
Post Number: 163 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 5:43 am: |
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I once dreamt I was on the roof of a building, a normal office building it looked like. I was picking over the pipelines and grooves you find on office building rooves, which make it awkward to walk properly. I then saw a caravan sitting on the roof a short distance away- it looked like a gypsy's caravan. A group of people (I think they were people) invited me to ride with them. Next thing, we are in a land where the trees are dancing and there are fairies and elves and such. Then they show me a map of the Earth with parts of the continents broken up or flooded. I was not sure if the map was from the past or... the future. |
   
Jera uruz
Intermediate Member Username: numen
Post Number: 101 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 8:12 am: |
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That's neat Cosmic. That's also interesting about the flying trains. I dream of large white tubes that are kind of like boarding passages onto planes but they're more narrow and longer and they fly, at which point they look a bit like planes. They sometimes turn into roller coasters that cover miles and miles of ground. Last night, I had an argument with Noam Chomsky. lol Santa is God and Foozball is the devil.
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dirkwright
New member Username: dirkwright
Post Number: 49 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 8:28 am: |
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I think a lot of that dreaming about trains that fly and other strange transportation devices is actually about traveling on spaceships, since our egos have no other way to interpret our experience. I've dreamed of airplanes with no wings flying around, and other strange contraptions that were probably spaceships. On the other hand, I did have that dream of seeing the sky filled with spaceships, so maybe the interpretation depends on other things as well. Oh well, it's a mystery anyway. |
   
Southern Cross
Senior Member Username: jolinda
Post Number: 1852 Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 10:53 am: |
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Interesting point, Mark. I've seen the material universe as a projection during meditation, but that hologram insight adds a unique twist. Hale, Just last evening I was reading about the concepts of linear time, that you just posted about. Apart from experiencing being in the bodies of what I assume were my past lives, I also have experience being in the bodies of several people who are living in the present. My first thought was that I was slipping away from my sense of self boundaries. Then I ran across the concept of soul groups and how they could sometimes experience things in each other's bodies. I don't know what to think now. I do know that a part of the military remote viewing experiments involved trying to get into the brains of the "enemy," the way you have described. |
   
dirkwright
Junior Member Username: dirkwright
Post Number: 54 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 11:08 am: |
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You must have a very strong natural talent for remote viewing SC. I only have small experiences with it myself. There are classes you can take to develop that further. Yeah, I've read about the military RV programs, and talked with Joe McMoneagle about it. In addition to getting into other's minds, obviously they were interested in the facilities. Joe seems to think that remote viewing is very important for learning about the universe. I'm not sure that's my focus, but he's extremely talented at it. He has a web site with a blog. |
   
nadm
Intermediate Member Username: nadm
Post Number: 198 Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 11:14 am: |
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Southern, i don't think you have to be in someone's "soul group" in order to have that sort of extreme empathic experience. i know a number of people who experience this boundary-less awareness of the emotions, thoughts or physical sensations of others, ranging from loved ones to total strangers. some have this proclivity to a debilitating extent and can hardly stand to be around people. for others it is more sporadic, or triggered more by close relationships. because i have seen so many version of it, i am inclined to think it is one of those "psychic" abilities probably common to most if not all people, but only thus far manifest in some. and i agree that it is probably a function of some sort of shared or universal unconscious which for some people at times becomes more conscious. this is not unlike what some people describe as their experience of enlightenment, the visceral understanding that we really are all one. |
   
dirkwright
Junior Member Username: dirkwright
Post Number: 56 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 12:24 pm: |
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My wife mentioned having empathic experiences when she was a teenager. I don't know exactly what she felt though, meaning I don't know if she just knew what the other was feeling, or directly experienced it. |
   
Cerridwen
Advanced Member Username: isabella11
Post Number: 307 Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 12:55 pm: |
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jumping back to the flying dreams. i've been having these off and on for the past year. last night, i was on a small plane that was flying pretty low to the ground...i kept wondering when we were going to get up to the higher altitudes. Then we land on a stone outcropping, and a man, who i realize is my father, is tinkering with what is now the engine of a small craft. not really a plane. plus i'm wondering how we are going to "tkae off" when there is only a little rock jutting out. then the coverall dressed woman pilot looks at me, and i walk up to the craft and i know that it's a ...nuke that has been placed on the craft. i don't know if this is to be used as proplusion or...something else. i know i don't want to get on that craft though. i say i'll just alked to the east coast...then i woke up. another where i was piloting a "small plane" through the streets of an unknown town. zipping throug phone lines and such. i wonder at the seeming ability to do such things in dreams when i "can't" in real life... anyway, i know yall were disucssiong RV, but i needed to throw that in. i don't have anywhere else i can tell these dreams without getting "the looks"...;) |
   
dirkwright
Junior Member Username: dirkwright
Post Number: 57 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 1:06 pm: |
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Those are very interesting dreams Cerridwen. The dream world is so confusing sometimes. I never seem to know if it's the past or the future, or just astral fantasy or what. Add on top of that my mind translating everything into something understandable, and it just adds to the confusion. I kind of given up figuring this stuff out. Sorry I can't help out more. |
   
Cerridwen
Advanced Member Username: isabella11
Post Number: 308 Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 1:09 pm: |
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it's ok dirk. i just kind of roll with my dream life. it often seems as real as my day life at times... mine are just so vivid and partially lucid pretty muc hall the time, like i KNOW i'm somewhere else, but i can't control (like "real" lucidty) the people or dream landscape. it's wierd... |
   
dirkwright
Junior Member Username: dirkwright
Post Number: 60 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 2:03 pm: |
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I know what you mean. I sometimes have that too. I think dreams are effected by our daily lives as well as any medication or what not we take. For example, if you want intense sex dreams all night long, take some DHEA before bed. wow, you won't get much sleep that night from all the excitment! Likewise, I think sleep aides make it hard to remember what happens. |
   
Bran
New member Username: bran
Post Number: 17 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 7:13 pm: |
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Cosmic, Some random(?) association. . . I had a dream several years ago where I had taken up with some gypsies. . . they didn't have any of the accoutrements typically associated with gypsies, but they were gypsies. They were people in touch with magic. The world had changed. Things were darker. The population was much smaller. The gypsies were in hiding underground--hiding from persecution by the government and/or dominant culture. I had chosen to join them although I didn't need to (I could have chosen to be part of the dominant culture). The dream had a sense of future. I don't think this association is really all that random. There's something about your gypsies that brought this dream from at least twelve years ago back full-force. |
   
Hale
Senior Member Username: hale
Post Number: 555 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 9:37 pm: |
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Seems we have a theme on beings disquised like us (something not quite right?) and tubes/trains/airplanes. SC, I know of some people, much like nadm mentions that have this ability and it is not an easy thing. I know that for myself, this has been what I have sought in relationships with women, some indefinable level of communion or connection that goes beyond just the usual stuff. I seem to do it when I am in a dissasociated state or in dreaming, or know the person well and am comfortable with them. At some point, the saying goes, everything is connected. We all should have connectivity with every other being and particle in the multiverse based on how ti is all tied together. Now whether we can shed the filters or whatever you want to term it that keeps us feeling intact and seperate (like water in icecube trays---we all know we are all from the same ocean, right?) is another question. I'll tell you I can ONLY go on my experience and I know that the past life experience of the Indian self up there on the hill crying for a vision involved me stepping in and moving his hands around, looking at them, looking at my surroundings a little, and once the vision started, being a co-participant in the experience. I was equally aware of being in the present day location as well as the location up on that hill and even as this Thunder being that came out of the storm. Multiple locations, equally aware. Now for all I know the moment I experienced that time frame, a new parallell was cleaved off, but I don't know about that. I just know what I experienced. I see how one could use such skills to get into peoples' heads and try to control them. I guess it has been going on for some time. I was up most of the night feeling like I could hear lava cracking and popping. I rarely miss sleep over it, but it was like this was going on all night long. Then, probably because I PM'd buddie earlier, I had a snippet with buddie telling me (actually a voice without a face....but I knew this was supposed to be her in the dream) about a particular pathway, maybe a place to walk, I don't know. It was like 'look at this path, it is beautiful' It was just a snippet. I was in and out of sleep, and normally I sleep like a rock. "No Guru, no method, no teacher, Just you and I and nature"- Van Morrison
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Hale
Senior Member Username: hale
Post Number: 556 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 9:46 pm: |
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Mama Shine, you are right. Seth DID talk about counterparts. I was reading about that a few months ago at most (again). I am trying to think if Seth described them as having come from the larger or oversoul? Or is it a group like SC mentioned? Gee, I am having trouble remembering. Well, whatever the case, right, Seth did talk about that stuff. Dogma free, too. "No Guru, no method, no teacher, Just you and I and nature"- Van Morrison
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Southern Cross
Senior Member Username: jolinda
Post Number: 1859 Registered: 1-2004
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Hale, I have also had the experiences of being a co-participant in another body (and timeframe). A couple of times, this happened during a recollection of a "life review," where I was being asked some questions about the life that I had just died from. I agree that we can most easily break through the illusion of separation with certain people with whom we are very comfortable or vibrationally similar. I think that in our individuated egos, we are like waves upon the ocean of Spirit. Have you caught the recent news about Mt. St. Helens starting to give off a smoke plume? That may be part of the volcanic feelings that you have had. I get a sense that you are very sensitive to rock and earth frequencies and changes in form. In a way, it defines you and your work. Beyond that, maybe you are feeling certain emotions because you are going to be moving? As for the ability to "shape shift" in our material universe, the best I can do sometimes is to become "dim." I've done this a couple of times in karate class when the teacher asked for volunteers to demonstrate something or other. After a long while, he said, "Oh SC, I didn't notice you there for some reason." Over the years, I've struggled to come to grips with what I think is "real." I've had the experience of being in two places at once, and having physical sensations in both. It's a trip. |
   
buddie
Senior Member Username: buddie
Post Number: 3006 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 5:07 am: |
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Hale,the night of the 19th I was really taken by something Doug posted over in his Crop Circle Thread. It was about 'Shibumi' the state of understanding rather than knowledge eloquent silence.. more japanese .. I looked into it somewhat before I went to bed that night.. all I remember is the flying trains dream but I am convinced we are all one and I don't have to be 'dreaming' to feel that.. BTW I messaged back did you get it? Qua da di
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dirkwright
Junior Member Username: dirkwright
Post Number: 68 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 9:03 am: |
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Well, I did an experiment last night. I decided to not take my usual Benadryl before bed just to see what would happen. I normally take a couple of them, plus 6 mg of melatonin, as sleep aids. I sometimes throw in a Tylenol too. I also take things like Longevinex, 5-htp, etc. at bed time. I'm big on supplements...So, I go to bed a little after 9, then I wake up at 11, record my dreams, go back to sleep. Then I woke up again at 12:30, recorded my dreams, then listened to my delta CD for an hour, then went to sleep again. Woke up again at 2 am and recorded more dreams. Finally said the heck with this and took two Benadryl and slept until 5:30. I remembered my dreams from then less clearly, didn't bother writing them down. I'm a light sleeper with intense experiences, what can I say? I don't think I want to repeat this experiment though. I need good sleep to feel refreshed. I dreamed exclusively of J the entire night. |
   
dirkwright
Junior Member Username: dirkwright
Post Number: 69 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 9:09 am: |
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I've had experiences of being in a woman's body, but not with anyone else. I've never done these kinds of things before. I'm more interested in my own energy flow, relationships, and emotional well being. When people are on their death beds, they don't regret the mansion they never lived in, or the fabulous job they never had; no, they regret the unfinished business in their relationships, particularly their intimate ones. They regret the choices they made, the love they never expressed, the forgiveness they never offered, things like that. That's why I now feel that relationships are the most important thing for me to focus on. I used to focus on them a long time ago, but got side tracked for many years. Anyway, this isn't the relationships thread, sorry. |
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