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Southern Cross
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

More often, to me they mean stress. It doesn't surprise me since I have so much going on at work. I think I watched too much OZ as a child.
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dirkwright
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

My last tornado dream was violent, but that wasn't necessarily bad. The tornados were going through buildings, blowing them up and catching the flames from exploding stuff inside. There were satellites falling from the sky too. wow.
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susi t learn
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

southern

i've had tornado dreams...always when my life was in turmoil, like right before my divorce i had several tornado dreams. i think they just mean stress-at least to me.
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dirkwright
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Well, change, stress, what's the difference? I guess you can have stress without change, but change without stress? I don't think so, at least not usually.
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susi t learn
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

there is a difference and you can have one without the other. the biggest change of my life was packing up and moving to arizona. no stress.
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dirkwright
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Well, that falls under "not usually" I suppose. many times, change is good, it's just that it is one of the two fundamental fears we all possess. The other fear is "fear of the other" - xenophobia. there's a name for fear of change, but it escapes me now.
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Thomas
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Post Number: 4491
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Susi, I hope you can teach me that sometime. Soon.

Seriously.
"Question what's real. Question who's real."
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dirkwright
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

yeah really, change can be really scary. take a deep breath and jump! aahhhh!!
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susi t learn
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

thomas

teach you what?

i think 'fear' of anything is highly subjective-depending on the individual. i've always been a laid back person who can pretty much go with the flow. the only times i stress is when something happens to my kids. i always find change exciting for the most part.
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quigs
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Had a dream that I was at some sort of Medical facility. They were doing cross breeding in between animals and humans. I was being given a tour and I got lost from my tour group. As I was trying to make my way back a half human/half cat jumped down from the ventilation system and began to size me up. I believe she was trying to ascertain if I was friend or foe. Then she gave me a chesire cat smile and started singing Bjork's song Human Behaviour. I started to sing along with her. Here is what we sang:

If you ever get close to a human
And human behaviour
Be ready to get confused
There's definitely, definitely, definitely no logic
To human behaviour
But yet so, yet so irresistible


We were having a good time singing then all of the sudden a Doc came along and grabbed her. He apologized to me and then the dream gets fuzzy. Don't remember what happened after that.
"We have enough religion to hate each other, but not enough to love each other." Jonathan Swift
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Thomas
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Post Number: 4493
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Susi said:

quote:

thomas

teach you what?



It sounds like you have learned the lesson of "handling stress" pretty well in your life. In my estimation, I have not; although some would disagree.

I meant that I think I could benefit from your knowledge/experience in this.

(Message edited by thomas_j_veil on October 13, 2006)
"Question what's real. Question who's real."
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susi t learn
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

again, i think each person has their own 'remedy'.

when things get out of balance and i feel something 'heavy' building, i get out in nature. if i can't leave the home i go out back, where it's pretty private...we have a mud adobe wall and no neighbors can see me. i've got grass and trees and lots of birds. all i do really, is just sit and look at everything. i watch the clouds. i listen to the birdsongs. i stand barefoot on the grass which is great grounding, getting energy from mother earth.

if i can leave, i head for the desert or mt lemon and find a pretty spot and just sit and do the same.

i don't know how it works, only that i seem to find myself calm and back to center. then i'm ready to forge ahead.

a friend of mine once told me, 'susi, if it can't kill you and eat you, you'll survive.' lol
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Thomas
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 1:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Maybe then I need to be out in nature more.

(Now watch something out there kill and eat meÖ )
"Question what's real. Question who's real."
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Hale
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 5:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Doing work of a physical nature can help, too. Maybe something that breaks you out of old patterns of thought. Nature is the most obvious choice.

Sometimes push ups help or other physical activity.

Swimming is a great way to wear yourself out if every chore around the house is finished.

I like turing over stones in a creek ( put them back when I am done). Interesting to see the salamanders. At the very worst, I guess they might gum you to death. I think someone could resuscitate you right easy, though.
"No Guru, no method, no teacher, Just you and I and nature"- Van Morrison
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John
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Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

weird I dreamed first that I went to this mansion that as now a mental convalescence place and a woman would not let me in to talk to who I needed to. but I did any way got in and was in an office and there were all these fishbowls with goldfish were the water was turning white and I got an aquarium and put all the fish in to it but that was not good enough and suddenly my old boss was there helping me and we stringing tubes to get more air in the fish tank we told the people there they needed to get a filter but they would not do it then suddenly this gay couple come in and said they were getting a whole new set up and started to carry every thing out side and I am standing there and the one goes ya I want one with legs. but it was not just the fish tank they got rid of. it was antiques furniture and everything they owned then suddenly I was with a bunch of people and my old boss and we are looking at each other like why are they getting rid of this stuff. I think we all carried it away and I got the fish tank.

ya know its getting cold and I need to bring my goldfish in. hum I wonder.

we never did fix anything but seems like the people just wanted to start over new. so maybe we did. sometimes you have to empty the cup to fill it again.

when we came out of the place we were by the ocean like on the east coast all cragy and splashy
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brown
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Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 6:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

slept in and had been dreaming about my adult son then it all got so scary that I woke up ..
I'm still thinking about this when I hear voices outside then knock knock on the door and it's my son and his girlfriend-partner.
And of course I told him about the dream .. he thought it was hilariously funny as in it isnt ever going to happen...
umm so I guess I cant call it precognitive but weird that I was dreaming about him then he turns up.
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Mark
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Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 8:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Southern Cross, you wrote:
Last night I had one of my recurring tornado dreams. They're usually all similar. I watch a series of tornados moving towards my location. Sometimes there are as many as five lined up all at once. Most of the time they come close, but pass by. Last night was different in that I was actually in three separate buildings that had direct hits. In some cases the building would start to shatter around me. I also felt a great pressure when the tornado passed and felt myself about to be sucked up by the storm. Any thoughts?

If it was my dream, I'd take it as a sign that I was watching too much media news coverage. That's not a problem, but with the emphasis on danger so much, it may set the tone for interpreting any experience coming your way in terms of being dangerous when they aren't.

5 tornadoes = 5 senses.
3 buildings = 3 aspects of survival, nurturing and spirituality - all threatened by blustery but weak forces in life?
Nahhh...give yourself a treat or something.

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There are one hundred and twelve methods of meditation. They differ in their constitution, but the fundamentals remain the same: relaxation, watchfulness, a non-judgmental attitude.
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Sheila Na Gig
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Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I had a strange little dream last night. I suddenly found myself in this casino and as I looked around a middle-aged man came up to me and said that all the people from unknown country were there. Then he pointed to one of the center aisles where all the slot machines were and told me that he was going back there to sit beside susi t learn again as she was teaching everybody how to win. Next thing I hear are very loud ping-ping-pings coming from that direction. I'm making my way through the crowd and then I wake up.

susi t learn, are ya feeling lucky?
Pog Mo Thoin.
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Mama Shine
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Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

John,

I was reading dreams and noticed one you wrote about on the 12th about a Scandinavian prophet and the name Pier Gynt popped into my head. I always loved Grieg's Pier Gynt suite but was always so captivated by the music that I would neglect the story. I do recall Pier Gynt was quite interesting. Anyway, for what it's worth.....
Come away, oh human child!
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand,
For the world's more full of weeping than
You can understand. W.B. Yeats
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John
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Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 7:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

thanks mama shine, that gives me some sort of lead to look in to. ill check in to it. always thought there was some conection for me with hans christan anderson too. just sorrting out the dreams.

anyway thanks and welcome to the board!

for what its worth i dont think this is any one at all on the board.
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Mama Shine
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Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 1:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Hi John,

Me too . I loved Hans C Andersen so much that I found a picture of him and framed it. Especially the Snow Queen. my grandmother read it to me so many times that I memorized it at the age of 3 and sort of taught myself to read from it.
Come away, oh human child!
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand,
For the world's more full of weeping than
You can understand. W.B. Yeats
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John
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Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 3:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

his beautiful sad stories, something in them but the snow queen ended up good.

i remember crying over the little match girl and the frozen swan.

i think his gift to the future was compassion. i love his works at any rate.

so amy dreams people.

damond you'v been kinda quiet, like reading your dreams man.
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chriscrd
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Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

i have these reoccuring dreams...a couple of times a year for many years now...basically, that there are secret rooms underneath my house or beyond its foundations...i live in the same house that i grew up in, and i remember this was a topic that fascinated my friends and i when we were young...and rumors that certain houses in the neighborhood had secret tunnels or rooms...the house are not that old...typical post world war 2 suburban development with finsihed or semi finished basements...nothing exotic...

the dreams usualy revolve around the theme that i am doing some sort of repair or remodeling work (which i often do) in the basement and come across soem sort of rooms or tunnels when opening up a wall...in one dream i came aross a large room under my front lawn, which was collapsing in on itself and it was some soert of storage...old vehicles, i think an old airplane even...in a recent dream a couple months back i found a tunnel leading into the municipal sewer system, which lead into more tunnels, which had lighting and all sorts of subterranean concrete chambers and rooms...looked as though they were being prepped for something or fixed up...tools and ladders were in some of the rooms...i could hear faint noises of workers in the distance...in that dream i had decide to keep it a scret and was trying to find a way to cover up or camouflage the small opening leading into my basement so they would not see and i could go back in and explore any time i wanted to...

i remember as a young boy being convinced this was the case, expecially after reading some book about undergorund rivers and caves...i remember trying to find some with my friends but never succeeded...in reality there were some sewer tunnels and runoff tunnels that ran under the major highway that runs along the development that lead to the other side of town, but they were nothing special except for the usual fake satanic graffitti the older kids would paint inside....one did lead to a cemetary though, but its purpose is to run a stream under the highway to the other side and then it runs through the cemetary and beyond...
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Thomas
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Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Interesting. More underground tunnels. We seem to have a theme going on, between us and with a few other board members besides, Chriscrd.

Thank you for sharing these fascinating recurring dreams, Chriscrd. And welcome to the board.
"Question what's real. Question who's real."
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quigs
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Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 1:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Chriscrd you could be sleepwalking into these tunnels. Or maybe you are Remote Viewing while in a dream state and the tunnels actually exist. How far have you gone to try to find them? Have you drilled any holes in your basement walls? You could use one of those small cameras that you see in movies. You know the ones that can bend around corners. If you run across anything else keep us posted. Welcome to the board btw.
"We have enough religion to hate each other, but not enough to love each other." Jonathan Swift
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chriscrd
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Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 5:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

thanks thomas and quigs...i just saw the 'cavern' post in the other forum as well...very interesting...

the ones in my dreams are not cavelike, but more man made...

quigs...could be sleepwalking or remote viewing...the latest dream i mentioned, with the tunnels being remodeled that connected into the sewer system, was quite intense and i woke up exhausted from it, as if iw as walking and crawlingn around all night...i never tried a cmaera like that...but, i have had several very good opportunities to check things out...when iw as 13 we had a family friend remodel our basement...parts of the old walls and panelling were ripped off and there was some drilling into the foundation walls...i was there for all of it...nothing out of the ordinary...last year we had some work done to the other part of the basement, the laundry and utility room...part of the floor was ripped up to make a newer and bigger sump pit and remove an old oil tank...i saw nothing unusual...then in my latest dream, where i entered the serwer tunnels, the entrance i found was under the basement stairs, we have a small storage room there (i keep my wine in there)...we had rael work done there at the same time as the laundry room...floor was beefed up and tiled over...nothign unusual...i helped with that part of it...then a few months back, my neighbor across the street, his sewer pipe going into the house broke...this required his entire front yard to be dug up pretty deep...of course i jumped at the opportunity to take a peak and was going to help him redo his lawn and landscaping anyway...nothing unusual...and the crew dug pretty deep down...and the surveyors had to mark off sevral houses around and all i saw was the standard lines marked off that i knew were water mains and sewer lines...and the house are failry small and close together...not much room to work with such a netwrok of tunnels like i saw unless they were far deeper than that...last dream was really impressive in that they were definetly preparing and reconditioning the tunnels for something and i knew i was not supposed to be there...like i found a design flaw in my house that lead there...i'm trying to fogure out where these dreams come from as they've been going on for as long as i can remember...

regarding the stream and tunnel i mentioned earlier that is near my house but not near my houe...i just did some mapping and satellite research and did find that it seems to be diverted fgrom that location that i knew it from to under a different set of houses close to me (different development onthe other side of a main road) and reemerges fully exposed in some woods we used to play in when i was younger (we had a bmx dirt track hidden in there and i remember the stream in there, just never occurred to me it was the same one), so those houses might have a waterway running underneath it...those woods sadly have been half ripped out to make for a new overpriced development and are mostly gone...the waterway has been diverted underground even more by some tunnels and basins built specifically for that that i've checked out already...standard storm runoff and stream diversion type stuff from what i kno...

i have to look into this more...
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Wax Tadpole
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I wasn't keeping a journal at the time, but I still pretty well remember a fairly interesting dream I had at exactly the time my nightmares (such as they were post-childhood, not overly frightening but still unpleasant) finally stopped, at around age 20 or so.

Earlier that Saturday afternoon, I'd been watching a low-budget locally-made SF film from the 70s. It involved a spacecraft that, while transporting three strange alien creatures, was forced to make a crash landing on Earth. The creatures escaped, and most of the film concerned the efforts of some hapless humans to avoid getting killed by these beasts until a member of the civilization responsible for the craft arrived and rounded them up.

The effects people must've done well with what they had available, because I was haunted by the (as I remembered it) dinosaur-like creature that could make itself invisible. I know this because of how it was used in my dream.

In the dream, there was a sequence where I had the sense that I should go look in my closet. In the closet was a canvas bag, probably about the length of my forearm, gathered at the top where it was attached to a hook, and expanding downward toward the bulging object resting in it's bottom, forming a rough teardrop shape. I had the strong sense that the creature from the movie, greatly reduced in size, was in the bag, that it specifically represented my nightmares, and that it was dormant.

From that night onward I have never had another nightmare, not even once. Pretty neat, huh?

(Message edited by waxtadpole on October 17, 2006)
"The Icelanders (and maybe even Widde) call it Vax Halakarta!"
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Mama Shine
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 1:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I get a picture of a fetus in the womb. Don't pay any mind to me .I should think before I speak (look before I leap) and come up with an articulate 3 or 4 paragraphs of B.S. Nothing else comes to me.. You mentioned something in another thread about seeing a blue light on a roof or something. I see that light from time to time, it's nice. Take care......
Come away, oh human child!
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand,
For the world's more full of weeping than
You can understand. W.B. Yeats
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John
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 4:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

you have seen the blue light mama? and dont take this wrong please but who are you adressing?

and i dont know how nice the blue light is if you end up asleap nakid on the lawn in the morning after seeing it? or was that a 40ouncer of paps blue ribon? oh well never mind.

i deleeted the picture i made of that blue light insident. i am still confused as to what it was. i brought it up a year ago and all people could do was dog it. and railroad the converstion. only 2 people mentioned it looked familiar one left and the other is still here but sinse the thread is gone i will not bring up that persons name. lovely individual none the less a true hearted person

funny you mentioned the blue light as i was thinking of it intensly today.

hey you may not even be talking to me for all i know but. but there was the blue light reference for me.

maybe im special

but that was a real time event and not a dream. if you want to hear of the account of the blue light PM me. ill tellya but never here again

anyway this is dreams here. back to dreaming
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merovee
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I dreamt about underground facilities too. Just acouple of days ago, and so did my sister. We both dreamt we were at a house party and that we lost track of our boyfriends. We both caught our boyfriends cheating in the dream. For some reason I didn't care all that much about it even though in real life I would be devastated. In my dream the house was owned by some kind of professor. The whole dream felt like it was set in some fascist post-apocalyptic world. I lost track of my boyfriend cause I took a nap(in my dream!)during the party and someone woke me up and nobody I knew was there anymore. I was looking for my boyfriend, and heard some people having sex in the bathroom, and I barged in thinking it was him, It wasn't him It was some impostor, someone who looked eerily like him, butr when I looked in his eyes I realized it wasn't him. So Ikept looking and went out back by the back door, there was a pile of laundry or something and I saw someone fall into it and not come back out. So I checked it out. I fell though it too like going into another dimension. I thought I was in the basement of this house, but also got the impression it was in anotheer dimension. It was dingy and grey. There were all kinds of weird electronics built into the wall and printouts of graphs everywhere. It was like a maze down there. I norticed dried blood all over the flor of this one room that seemed like it was used for experiments. I got a very bad feeling an wanted to go back upstairs and then I woke up.

I dreamt this on Saturday night before I read this thread. Weird.
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Wax Tadpole
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

John, Mama was referencing my account elsewhere of the *last* of my try-to-find-a-light-that-works-in-the-dark nightmares. It transitioned to a situation where my dream self was out in a generic back yard in suburbia at night, looking at a nearby house and enjoying the blue glow of it's roof, which was caused by a string of lights or something similar. It had a vaguely Christmasy feel to it, and it was very pleasant - the overall feel was one of liberation I suppose.
"The Icelanders (and maybe even Widde) call it Vax Halakarta!"
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Mama Shine
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Thanks for the blue light explanation. John, I was pleased to hear Wax had a good feel about the blue light.

Weird, I changed my sig this morning before I read anything.
Like a bolt out of the blue,
Fate steps in and sees you through.....
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John
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

no problem, just did not know for sure who was being asked a question.

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Wax Tadpole
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 2:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

When it comes to board conversation, going to the John is a *good* thing! [apologizes for the very lame pun, shoots it, and boils it down for glue] [apologizes for the second really lame pun which initiated an endless loop]
"The Icelanders (and maybe even Widde) call it Vax Halakarta!"
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John
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oh no....... uggggg. waxy lol

where is my 40 ounser im going to need it.
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bean
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

John, There have been a couple of threads over the years concerning the blue light. When I find them, I usually post about my experience from childhood.... I don't know if I cought yours ( don't post much anymore.) I would very much like to hear your experience...and see the picture. I KNOW it's discouraging sometimes on this board.....you post something in good faith, hoping to get a responce that can help put it all together....and get lambasted or ignored....or something in between! Please don't let that stop you from sharing your experiences. Someone out there will get something out of it.
Sorry to all for bending the thread.
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Hale
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Don't take it to heart if you get ignored. Sometimes it is who happens upon the thread in any given day or week. There are real currents to boards. For what it is worth....

I second the cavern thing. It IS a theme, and I'd say, one to pay attention to. There is a link to some sites I provided a link to in the Cavern thread in the UFO & Unknown portion of the board. Since it is RV info, I don't know if it is accurate or not (no way to tell for sure) but maybe worth tossing around as a what-if scenario. Better to listen to your own experience than those of others.

But on to dreams.

I seem to be on a Nazi kick.

I am watching this all from above, seeing a large parade. Hitler and his goons are in this parade, all clustered around each other. They stand out big time.

In the dream the U.S. is trying to undermine the Nazi regime by merging with it. By that I mean, to send certain people INTO the bodies of the people in charge in order to turn the "car" around, as it were. But as this began to happen, I got closer down to the ground where Hitler and his men were goose stepping down the road. As the US was working this attempt at destroying the Nazi's, they became the Nazi's. It happened JUST as the minds of the people (representing the US) were feeling like they were just beginning to succeed! In that moment when I could FEEL the minds of the people working this get all excited, it was in that moment that they were lost. They forgot what they were excited about, and that excitement became the excitement for the Motherland, or whatever. It was an interesting transformation

In the process of trying to change this regime, they became the regime. They became what they despised. As this happened, the main people in this parade who were the subject of this type of psychic intrusion began to change in a physical way. They got bigger physically. Their features became more exaggerated. They kind of reminded me of puppets.....a little cartoon-like in their exaggerated features. But dark and brooding, all with three-day shadows. I began thinking of them as being made of cardboard or paper machť.

Perhaps we have a history of this...of becoming the enemy we so despise. And perhaps the enemy is a puppet, and perhaps the master is the one who sought to change its nature in the first place and got caught up in the illusion of working the "puppet." Who knows.


Now back to your regularly scheduled program....
"No Guru, no method, no teacher, Just you and I and nature"- Van Morrison
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Hale
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Okay, it took reading somethings to get this triggered, or remembered. Something about what brown was saying about a knock knock on the door seemed to do the trick.

It isn't exactly a dream, I don't think, but perhaps it happened in a relaxed state. It was VERY strange....for how real it sounded and felt as I was phasing from sleep to waking (this does not normally happen in my sleep)

I lay down and I think to myself "am I feeling awake enough to try and do some meditation work?" As I do this, I kind of feel around myself to see how tired I feel. I feel myself relax and actually fade.

Blank.

I begin to surface from sleep. Maybe only a few moments. Hard to tell. But as I do, I awaken to a very definate SOUND in the room. This sound is very specific. It sounds like someone turning pages in a book at first, but perhaps more accurate, it sounds like.....like clothing being moved around. Even MORE specific than that, like polyester clothing....the shiny stuff. Like nylon (tent material) and the sounds it makes when it rubs against itself? Like that.

But as I awaken, and my focus goes to it, it stops. It isn't like it fades so much, but that it stops. I am creeped out and I have that sinking feeling and I stay perked up in case there is something in the room with me, but as I think about it, I decide what I was hearing was not in this world, but another. Perhaps a real world, but not one we tune in all the time. I certainly felt that my EARS were hearing this junk as opposed to hearing it in the center of my head.

It was pretty weird.

I have heard the sound of voices in the distance (lie the were coming from outside) and when I mentioned it on the board, that sound went away. Then I heard some Indian men drumming and singing in the distance, and when I mentioned that, that too went away. I guess I don't get to listen to the sound of clothing moving around, like something is being moved or something.

Perhaps this is symptomatic of something else. Perhaps it has NOTHING to do with voices or the sound of clothing moving.....perhaps it is just a symptom of something more, perhaps some part of the multiverse expressing itself (hasn't it been expressing itself a lot lately?). It is about some other world touching this one? And the process of how to merge is what is being brought to bear?

Of course I don't know what the heck I am talking about. Just tossing ideas around.
"No Guru, no method, no teacher, Just you and I and nature"- Van Morrison
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Damon
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Hello Group,

I had a dream about that old Victorian house again. I was just wondering around searching for something/someone again when I see a new staircase that I have never seen before. I float up to the top of the steps and there is a huge mirror at the top. I would say it was ten feet tall and 4 feet wide. The frame around the mirror was equally impressive and looked to be about 10 inches wide. It was carved with very intricate designs or symbols. The mirror itself had a noticeable depth to it, like you could step into it. I just floated there in front of the mirror for a long time, mesmerized by it, there where no thoughts going through my mind at all, like I was hypnotized. I was directly in front of it but did not see my reflection, I saw nothing in the mirror, just a haze. At this point the dream fades away and I wake up. 3:33 am.

Has anyone dreamt of such a mirror? Does it symbolize anything?

As always thanks for your input.
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Damon
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 8:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

John - Things have been very quite for me on the dream plane as of late. I have been running myself ragged between my home/work lives. I have not been getting much sleep and believe that is the main reason. I know I'm still dreaming a lot but struggle to recall the bulk of the dream. I have only been able to recall the things that really strike me during the dream, like the mirror in the previous post.

I had one the other night and could only recall a moment in front of a council of some sorts. It was compromised of 3 men and 2 women. There was a man in the center that was doing all the talking with a woman on each side of him. I really only got a good look at the man in the middle though. I wanted to, but could not turn and look at them for some reason. I tried to use my peripheral vision but everything turned blurry when I did that. In fact the man in the middle caught me doing this and got a grin on his face and said "now Damon, the sisters would not like that would they?" They where all dressed in white and gold robes and the room was a brilliant white as well, nothing else in the room. They fade away and an image of a silver, white and gold bow appears in front of me and begins to rotate. As it gets faster I begin to feel dizzy and wake from the dream. I could not recall anything that was said except that one comment.

Thanks for the comment about enjoying reading my dreams. As you know words can do no justice to the real thing. I enjoy reading the posts here as well, I thank you all for these.

I need to get caught up on my rest because I do really miss them. I'm still waiting on the next step with my OBEs, still only getting the vibration and floating feeling. I have not been able to get out of my body yet.

Thomas - I know, go with the flow, be patient, thanks for your insights.
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Rogue
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

[DREAM] I am a male member of a 1940's big band. One holiday we all decide to spend it together in someone's apartment playing. One by one other band members start showing up. One upper class member brings along his socialite friends and we have a high bash.

All of a sudden the scene changes. I am now Jean-Luc Picard and I watch myself struggle with an access panel on a very hostile looking planet. I get the panel off but something is coming that might see me. I fumble for some screws and nuts and then scramble for a hatchway that leads into the planet or a VERY large ship. It is all as I had though it to be. The memories of the Big Band holiday were false, implanted, a cover-up.

Inside now. It is kind of like a mine. The worker/prisoners all have a cartoonish or muppet like quality to them. The majority seem pretty ignorant of their situation. The boss comes around. My companion decides to challenge him. They fight. The boss sprays something from his mouth onto my companion. Nothing happens. Then in great detail I watch my companion's face eaten away. I notice that he doesn't seem to be experiencing any real pain (a little discomfort) as his head dissolves away and flops backwards. -something else major happens at this point but I don't remember it-

Scene of the mines again. A couple of workers have made themselves into a human ladder to work. In a different well lit area a worker is up on a real ladder looking out of a window and telling someone what they see. [/DREAM]


The dream doesn't actually end here but this aspect of it does.

What's a little odd is that I wake up, immediately write the dream out and even as I am writing I am fully aware that I am remembering one thing and my hand is writing something completely different. In this case I vividly, visually, and even viscerally remember that 'my companion' was screaming in terror and agony and frantically clutching and clawing at his head as it was eaten away. Since this was not the first case of the 'hand over-riding the mind', I knew I had to immediately read what I just wrote once finished. What is written in the [dream] block above is what was originally written.

...this only happens with dreams and even then only very rarely.
"It is not now as it hath been of yore; Turn wheresoe'er I may, By night or by day, the things which I have seen I can now see no more." -w. wordsworth
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John
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Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 9:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

ah Bean! I wondered what happened to you, I hope all is well. your missed here. Iím considering what you said and will in the personal UFO histories if I do.

thanks hale yours and damonds dreams seem similar to mine at times that is why I like reading you guys.

damond think the dream about the mirror has something to do with spirit mirroring the physical. not sure on that as I think I am learning that lesson my self the only thing is it a reverse image but what does that mean. it has connotations the abstract like what would the reverse look like in spirit. anyway I have found it confusing and just go with it. thanks for sharing with us and besides who says your not having obes with the dreams.

one night 2 weeks ago I laid down to sleep. and immediately I new something was a miss. I closed my eyes and felt this feeling like something coming over me and in my field of vision I saw turquoise and orange/red fracture pattern that fractured smaller and smaller. and I knew what it was and suddenly I am floating up through the roof and over the trees only to land on the front lawn. but there was this disk thing there and it held me on the lawn going from limb to limb vibrating them. it was weird I donít remember getting back in to my body but woke up the next day thinking what the heck was that.

mostly my dreams these days are about water and ponds.

had to stop bad guys or follow them to discover where they were hiding what they stole. one a burnt up charcoal person, best description, was hiding a treasure under a lake. had to go though circus tents to get to the lake he had two hench men a woman and a man, and they did not like me being their. but I ended up locking them in a hotel or something. but then the dream started over and I had to do it again. the charcoal man was like a vampire and was stalking people or something it make no sense, but it would seem that I was hunting some sort of predator. never did find out what he was hiding at the bottom of the lake.
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Wax Tadpole
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I've had modest dream recall the past couple weeks, but haven't done any dream-journal entries because I always felt too damn drained in the morning to set them down. This time, though, perhaps because of an ill-advised late meal, I woke up feeling crappy at 2:50 AM and in need to get away from the bed for awhile. I figured I'd take another stab at the wake-back-to-bed LD technique *and* post my newest journal entry at the same time. Please note the amusingly-blunt symbolic connection to my recent changes in diet/taste:
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"Pie of Sin"
Friday, October 20 2006

As the recall commences, I see a nice, homemade beef pot pie on my TV screen (I had watched a bit of a cooking show prior to sleeping, so perhaps this was the trigger). I have the sense that this is the beginning of an episode of "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" (which I used to watch in RL) and that the pie will be at the center of the plot, having been created as a magical tool to enslave the souls of any persons eating a piece of it.

I settle down to watch the show, only to see Mom come in the room and urge me to change channels, as there was some important news event developing. I watch this news, but it seems trivial to my mind as I later have no recall of it whatsoever, and I am itching to get back to my show.

When I finally change back, the show is over and the credits are rolling. I am disappointed, not only about having missed the program, but also not getting to participate in the contest to win a 'replica' of the pie used in the show. Another replica is being used as a backdrop for the credits.

After the credits finish up, the show continues in a bizarre fashion. The 'prize' pie remains on screen, and the camera slowly pans up to show a crowd of people's faces eagerly pressing in toward the pie so as to be sure of getting a share in it. They are clearly in a state of ecstasy, eyes half-lidded and mouths stretched in exaggerated smiles, their overall appearance one of vague elasticity. As they begin to press against each other, they become even more elastic than before, blending together at the edges.

The camera now pulls back in to a close shot of the pie. To my amazement, each quarter-section of the pie metamorphoses into a separate dessert, but before I can identify any of them the center of the pie erupts into a 'geyser' of sweets. I'm able to make out a "CGI" apple in the midst, but again the other elements flow by so quickly I cannot clearly discern them.

The geyser quickly transforms into a massive, slowly-moving column of layered desserts, which shoves aside the remaining pie crust. Forks come in from the periphery of the column, digging out gobs of gooey goodness, going offscreen (no doubt to those eager mouths from before), and plunging back in for yet more.

I can recall the following layers appearing:

- Various flavors of cake frosting
- Sponge cake, yellow I think
- A repeat of the frosting
- Neapolitan ice cream
- Butter cream frosting or marshmallow creme
- More sponge cake

I am certain that this display will go on for a good while longer, but the thought of those rubbery faces shoveling down that tremendous mass of sticky, sugary blended glop makes me faintly queasy and I have to look away...


(Message edited by waxtadpole on October 20, 2006)
"The Icelanders (and maybe even Widde) call it Vax Halakarta!"
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graciesmom
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Here's a strange dream: I'm cleaning a house that has about 12 floors and long flights of stairs. The banisters are white and green metal and porcelain. The newel posts sort of look like old stove controls from the 40s or 50s. An older woman (60s or 70s) who also looks like she's from that time era, is angrily directing my cleaning of this weird house. Naturally, I feel like I KNOW this place.

Waxy: I LOVE cake, but I'm feeling queasy this morning because I was a bad girl and ate an ENTIRE BOX OF TOFFEE-COVERED PEANUTS AND POPCORN LAST NIGHT! That's over 1,000 calories! I rarely binge, but man! Bad, bad, girl, says Gracie. Woof!
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Skafandr
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I had a rather strange dream last night after reading the story of a victim of mind control (http://www.reflectionsinthenight.com/) posted by Patricia on the Witnesses thread. After reading it and crying for quite some time for the tragedies of humankind (it was a very powerful article), I got a splitting headache and my previously easing cold got much worse all of a sudden. In this state I tried to go to sleep.

My dreams were constant repeating images of watching myself being crucified on an upside down Orthodox Christian cross above a feisty fire! The cross was even elongated at the bottom so that I could be hung in length on it. In distance there were other similar cross/bonfire combinations.

At 4:00 AM I got up, unable to fall into deep sleep and plagued by this rather unpleasant imagery. After taking a couple of Advils I did fall asleep, only to dream in the morning of exactly the same thing.

So my advice is...don't read that website before bed.
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bean
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Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Jeeeez Skafandr....That REALLY is a terrible dream. Shake it off!!!!
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John
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Was going to post this in the juicy song thread but thought better of it. As I think its meaning is deeper then a personal relationship and not appling to a past long term live in relationship with a competitive rollerskater. it was not him. doing double duty here for the dream journal and you guys by the way thank you very much to every one that contributes here.

the dream I seemed to be in a mountain community in the middle of the street with 2 women we meet this ice skater guy and he starts to teach us how to ice skate in the middle of the town but we are skating around 2 trees that are planted in the median and it all cement and chunked up. Like you really could not ice-skate there if you wanted to. It was weird and I loved it. I was spinning and skating around the trees and laughing with the women and then the dark haired guy took his shirt off and he was ripped not built like a skater at all who are usually long and lanky muscled. No I don't think it was Brian boytoano. I don't know who he was. But he was full of ideas and love.

After we got through skating he took us to the end of the median and showed us that it was leaking water and that it threatened to burst if something was not done about it. He told us that the part of town we were in was an ideal spot to put in an ice rink for people to come and skate on. we looked at one another and thought ya it was pretty fun to skate there

Then the dream ended. Nice dream actually. Any way during the dream this song was playing over and over.


Our life together is so precious together
We have grown, we have grown
Although our love is still special
Let's take a chance and fly away somewhere alone

It's been too long since we took the time
No-one's to blame, I know time flies so quickly
But when I see you darling
It's like we both are falling in love again
It'll be just like starting over, starting over

Everyday we used to make it love
Why can't we be making love nice and easy
It's time to spread our wings and fly
Don't let another day go by my love
It'll be just like starting over, starting over

Why don't we take off alone
Take a trip somewhere far, far away
We'll be together all alone again
Like we used to in the early days
Well, well, well darling

It's been too long since we took the time
No-one's to blame, I know time flies so quickly
But when I see you darling
It's like we both are falling in love again
It'll be just like starting over, starting over

Our life together is so precious together
We have grown, we have grown
Although our love is still special
Let's take a chance and fly away somewhere

Starting over

John Lennon
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bean
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Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 9:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Nice, nice, nice.
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slw
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Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

John, Cool dream!
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susi t learn
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sometimes i don't actually dream but just 'see pictures'. either right before i fall asleep or right when i wake up.

night before last i 'saw' a young woman. she had shoulder-length dark wavy/curly hair pulled back at the neck. blue eyes, smiling. but the weird part is she had on a hard hat.??

then the next day i 'saw' another young woman or girl. but only from the back. she was athletic in build, had on jeans with a striped shirt. her hair was blonde and slightly past her shoulders cut in a 'v' shape.

why i'm getting these people i have no idea.