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Mark
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Posted on Friday, August 12, 2011 - 4:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Are you listening to C2C now?

Former advertising executive and founder of Ignite Productions, Jeff Warrick will discuss his research on mass manipulation and subliminal messaging in a wide variety of media formats. He will be joined by Eldon Taylor to discuss the specific ways that corporations and governments use such techniques to influence society at large.

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Second Wind
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Yes, Mark. I listened to the entire program. Good program, all of it.
"In the end, only kindness matters."
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Mark
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Good. What I got from it - and have suspected for a long time - is that through the media there is a concerted effort from many sources to cause the public to mirror (imagine) the worst case scenarios happening in their own life in order to sell us the junk we don't need. Our discomfort = higher profits for them (or votes).
A need is created and the remedy offered all in one fell swoop - and they do it when the target is most vulnerable in an Alpha (light trance) state from watching / listening to their senseless productions.

That is all.
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Buddie
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Posted on Friday, August 12, 2011 - 9:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I Wonder where WE learned it?
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Second Wind
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It's no great mystery, Buddie.

We "got it" from an innate understanding of human psychology, and by intense observation and study of human behavior/psychology and brain activity.

Unfortunately, the desire to be "in control" is a natural human psychological trait. It's a survival instinct, basically.

But the tendency to want to exert power over others, just for the sake of it, or for personal gain, is also, unfortunately, a natural human trait. Some (most?) people have a strong ethical nature that prevents them from trying to control others. Some do not.

Speculation of the causes of various kinds of human behavior is most likely as old as mankind, and the study of it dates back to ancient times.


Psychology:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_psychology#History





Like so many other things about life, there can only be theories as to "why" or "how" humans behave as they do. None of us can know with any certainty. So, any explanation is possible.




What is certain is that those who would both seek to dissect, and then control, other human minds, took over any beneficial study of human behavior, or real attempt to heal people's souls, minds and hearts. And what is documented is that the "science" of mind control has continued to evolve in scope (both in terms of techniques of control, and ability to control larger and larger numbers of people).

It is fully implemented on us, by those who do NOT have our best interests at heart. And the potential for more and more control is obvious.


Psychiatry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry#History





While "psychology" was focused on understanding the human mind and behavior, eventually, that "helping" mindset was overtaken (especially during the late 60s and early 70s) by the "psychiatric" approach, the goal then becoming one of mind control, through actively changing the brain with electricity, sound, radio waves and pharmaceuticals.

Of course, they held on to what was learned through psychology, and use everything at their disposal in order to control the populace.




History of hypnosis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_hypnosis#Early_history




Post-hypnotic suggestion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-hypnotic_suggestion



Propaganda:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda




"In the end, only kindness matters."
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Buddie
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I would Never let another human
touch me that way..I almost went
under one time while watching a
Hypnotic Performance I forget
who it was..but about 20 years
ago we had The Great Raevel??
this type of thing..scared the
crap out of me because I was
going through my Night Stuff
at the time..
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Stephen Tenacé
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Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 1:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Wow. I just spent the last hour + reading through this thread; starting from the beginning. I'm glad I didn't find this topic before now. A ton of the information and websites I found on my own doing research into the this very topic during the past year. One thing missing... chip implants. The first mind control chip, which was actually a transistor, implanted in the frontal lobe of a Swiss Agent in Switzerland in the late 1950's. (That particular find is buried somewhere within my computer)

But I can offer this: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_secretdiscovery_codebrain.htm



Now?
A computer chip implanted behind the eye that could record a person’s every lifetime thought and sensation is to be developed by British scientists.
http://wemustknow.net/2010/12/soul-catcher-computer-chip-due/

A lot of great minds buried within this thread, a lot.
"Fear is the Thief of Dreams" - unknown author "If you have a golf ball sized consciousness, you experience a golf ball size reality." - David Lynch
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Stephen Tenacé
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Gilliland interviews Dr John Hall - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E2eE2azCig
"Fear is the Thief of Dreams" - unknown author "If you have a golf ball sized consciousness, you experience a golf ball size reality." - David Lynch
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Stephen Tenacé
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According to Dr Hall, he revealed there was no longer a need for implants. The technology to invade thought was a matter of frequency matching emotions (paraphrased)~(above interview, pt3).

(Message edited by manymansions2 on August 25, 2011)
"Fear is the Thief of Dreams" - unknown author "If you have a golf ball sized consciousness, you experience a golf ball size reality." - David Lynch
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Stephen Tenacé
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Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 3:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_mindcon.htm#Additional_Informatio n
"Fear is the Thief of Dreams" - unknown author "If you have a golf ball sized consciousness, you experience a golf ball size reality." - David Lynch
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Stephen Tenacé
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Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 4:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

... if this info was posted, forgive me.

OPERATION MONARCH: http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/operatio.htm
"Fear is the Thief of Dreams" - unknown author "If you have a golf ball sized consciousness, you experience a golf ball size reality." - David Lynch
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Mark
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Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

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It certainly appears to be true that Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien have surrounded Project Monarch with a cloud of confusing and sometimes entertainingly odd information. Their explanations of what is involved seem almost designed to make it all seem ludicrous -- and indeed, this is one of the tools used in ritual abuse and mind control-related abuse. There appear to me to be two real questions raised by such writings: Does a specific "Project Monarch" exist? And did the United States government commit atrocities like those attributed to Project Monarch -- and if so, which and by whom?

In previous readings on Project Monarch, I had been fortunate enough not to come across O'Brien or Phillips' controversial writings, nor even Martin Cannon's article on the subject. In doing research for this writeup, I was especially careful not to use them as resources."


http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1524021
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Stephen Tenacé
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Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 4:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Thanks Mark!

I told the person who was all involved with this conspiracy yesterday that Project Monarch sounded more like controlled disinformation than actual truth.

"Fear is the Thief of Dreams" - unknown author "If you have a golf ball sized consciousness, you experience a golf ball size reality." - David Lynch
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Second Wind
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

That's exactly what I have been saying about "Project Monarch", ever since I first came here in 2006.

From my own research over the past 11 years....and when taken in context of my own experiences/memories, I still maintain that Martin Cannon's information was the closest to the actual truth in that specific area where UFOs and Human Mind Control meet.

There are all kinds of stories coming from so-called "mind control program survivors" (like Duncan O'Finoean, for just one other example) that are so outlandish and peppered with fiction mixed with facts, that it makes the stories of what PROBABLY ACTUALLY DID HAPPEN to many children and others, seem downright boring.

Who wants to hear about a child or young adult who was subjected to medical and/or psychiatric experimentation, and was permanently damaged as a result, when it's much more interesting to hear stories like those coming from the likes of Kathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips or "super warriors" like O'Fineoan???


"In the end, only kindness matters."
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Second Wind
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On the other hand, I have to be fair, and say what will be almost a contradiction to what I said about "Monarch" above........

....and that is that there truly is so much about the area of government, "politics" and "our leaders" that I have come to see through, so that it makes even the most unbelievable stories (like O'Brien's) not out of the realm of possibility.

It's a very sad, confused, convoluted and corrupt subject. And so many have suffered. But only the most "outrageous" stories attract attention.

I do believe that early programming can break down, and people can begin to remember. I also believe that people who are beginning to remember can be dealt with to prevent further memory retrieval.

One thing I feel almost 100% certain of, is that not only will I probably never know the whole truth of what happened to me, but there will be no justice in our lifetimes for those of my generation who were victimized.
"In the end, only kindness matters."
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Stephen Tenacé
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The Secret Space Program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37jUImm1PPI&feature=player_embedded

Posted this in the UFO Forum and in this thread within this Forum due to the this subject being interrelated.
"Fear is the Thief of Dreams" - unknown author "If you have a golf ball sized consciousness, you experience a golf ball size reality." - David Lynch
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Second Wind
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 6:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

That video was amazing, Stephen! Thanks for posting it. VERY interesting interviews and ideas........

Gosh, I know several people that I would like to tie to chairs and force to watch this video.....


...but, nah; that won't happen.

Still, it's a great video, with lucid and credible (some more than others) speakers. It will go on my list of "Links I Hope to Show People Someday"!!
"In the end, only kindness matters."
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Stephen Tenacé
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... and here's a new book: Project: Soul Catcher - http://www.amazon.com/Project-Catcher-Secrets-Cybernetic-Revealed/dp/1452804087
"Fear is the Thief of Dreams" - unknown author "If you have a golf ball sized consciousness, you experience a golf ball size reality." - David Lynch
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Second Wind
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Really good find, Stephen!
"In the end, only kindness matters."
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Stephen Tenacé
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Project Monarch = "Thrive"
"Fear is the Thief of Dreams" - unknown author "If you have a golf ball sized consciousness, you experience a golf ball size reality." - David Lynch
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Second Wind
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Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 8:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

???
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Second Wind
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Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 8:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

OK, I saw on the movie thread what you are referring to.

No way I am paying money to watch it. I couldn't even watch the entire trailer!
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Stephen Tenacé
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Hypesters, Lies and Mind Control
Revelations January 11, 2012
"Fear is the Thief of Dreams" - unknown author "If you have a golf ball sized consciousness, you experience a golf ball size reality." - David Lynch
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Second Wind
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Very interesting that just about a week ago, I was googling Nick Begich, wondering why he has been so silent.

Now, tonight, I see that he will be on C2C again on Wednesday night. It could be that it will be no more than a re-hash of all that he has covered before....but I will still be glad to hear what he has to say.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/04/18

"Lecturer and author Dr. Nick Begich will discuss HAARP, and whether it's capable of affecting the climate or causing earthquakes, as well as current issues related to privacy and mind control."

(Message edited by second_wind on April 16, 2012)
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Whitley Strieber
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He has been on Dream many times, and has talked about his thoughts on the death of his father and Hale Boggs. He did a dream on that exact subject in 2008: http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland/masters-mind-control
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Second Wind
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Whitley, I have listened to all his interviews I have ever been able to find, including all the dreamland interviews.

I heard the re-broadcast of his first (I think) interview by Art Bell, done in 1995, but rebroadcast in the early 2000s. (I didn't get my first computer until Jan. 2001.)

I listened to interviews with him back when he was on Greg Szymanski's show at that time. I think I heard him on other internet radio shows, as well.

Then, I followed Nick during 2006, when he did his own show.

My only beef with Nick, probably, is the fact that he absolutely refuses to discuss chemtrails, especially as they may connect with the use of HAARP. He just will NOT go there.

He did admit on Coast the other night, in response to a direct question from George, that he has intentionally avoided the subject.

That bothers me, because he will not even say WHY he will not discuss it.

(Message edited by second wind on May 14, 2012)
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susi
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sw

do you mean nick won't go into detail? i remember reading in 'angels don't paly this haarp' that he said chemtrails change a person's chemical state.

also that chemtrails have barium salts and dimethyl (sp?) bromides in it which can cause ill health.
sure you can trust the government....just ask an indian.
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Second Wind
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susi, I have to admit that I have not read Angels Don't Play This HAARP.

I really do need to get it and read it. I have a really difficult time reading physical books for several reasons, the biggest of which is a 70% vision loss in my right eye about a year and 1/2 ago........

I am going to see if there is a large-print version available, or an e-book.

However, my complaint is that he refuses to discuss the subject of chemtrails in radio interviews.

Again, like I pointed out, he actually admitted to George Noory that he deliberately avoids the subject in interviews.

Thanks for the heads-up that he HAS talked about it in at least one book. Still, that makes me even MORE curious as to why he refuses to talk about it in interviews.
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Second Wind
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I have searched till I am exhausted, for any interviews, in any form (video, audio of transcripts) where Nick has discussed Chemtrails.

If anyone can find an interview where he actually addresses the issue, I would appreciate a link.
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Second Wind
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I am ordering Nick's book on HAARP that we mentioned above. There are no large print versions, but I am ordering it anyway.

Susi, do you still have the book?
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susi
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i lent it to someone years ago. so, no.
sure you can trust the government....just ask an indian.
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Second Wind
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Got the book ordered!


Can't wait to read what he has to say in the book about Chemtrails.

Thanks again, susi, for giving me the heads-up that he has written about them.
"In the end, only kindness matters."
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Roxanne
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Wonder if anyone here has seen this show, "Dark Matters"

Scroll down to the episode "Sexy Secret Agent." It's about mind control.

http://www.tv.com/shows/dark-matters-twisted-but-true/episodes/
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Buddie
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html

The Waterboys are singing STRANGE BOAT
at the Pub :-)

(Message edited by buddie on June 07, 2012)
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Second Wind
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Really good article.......and really OLD! Did you notice how long ago it was written?

I had never heard this particular aspect of this whole subject!

I'm amazed it has not come up before here on the board!
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Second Wind
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Q3cp3cp88
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Roxanne
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Don't know if this has been posted before.

The Wizard of Oz and the Illuminati Mind Control

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/oz.htm
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Roxanne
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Here's another one. Some good info, but I'm not sure what to think of it being as there's a link at the bottom where you can purchase Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanies. Seriously!

http://www.whale.to/b/nsa4.html
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Buddie
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DELETE
it was the same as Roxanne :-)
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blue
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I think the Wizard of OZ connection to programming and its use as a tool of the Illuminati (link interpretation) is very circular in its reasoning. (imo) The Wizard of Oz story/metaphor is a tool of redemption.

In addition, the Illuminati itself has changed hands over the centuries. My understanding is that it began as a group of enlightened souls trying to save important information that was systematically being destroyed and thus was "hidden". But the Illuminati became infiltrated (just as did the Knights Templar, etc.) and its purpose twisted and diverted. The enlightened souls moved on, but the those determined to remain on an evil path took the name. This has happened repeatedly throughout history.

I can understand that there may be a connection between children who are programmed and The Wizard of Oz, but I do not think that it is the evil, twisted one described here.

Also, why is the message that only "we" can save ourselves -- or that the individual (Dorthy) always has the power to return "home" a bad thing?

I think the analogy presented by the Dorthy story is one that those of us whose personalities have been usurped or modified by programming can cling to with hope. It illustrates how even a child in a world turned upside down has the power to overcome and triumph even when the odds against their survival seem insurmountable (not to mention terrifying).
We are the ones we've been waiting for.
Hopi Elders 2001.

to be a rock and still to roll . . .
change we can believe in is here -- The Ed Show
Love is the Way ~ Jesus of Nazareth
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Roxanne
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Blue, when I read what I posted in my post #108, I wasn't sure whether to post it or not. A lot of it sounds really "out there". But there seemed to be a seed of truth in it. Thought I'd post it to see if it peaked anyone's curiosity.
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susi
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http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/the-occult-roots-of-the-wizard-of-oz/
sure you can trust the government....just ask an indian.
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Roxanne
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Blue said:

"I think the analogy presented by the Dorthy story is one that those of us whose personalities have been usurped or modified by programming can cling to with hope. It illustrates how even a child in a world turned upside down has the power to overcome and triumph even when the odds against their survival seem insurmountable (not to mention terrifying)."



If you only knew the history of my brothers and me, you would think what you wrote would apply to us.

Susi, I almost posted that same link.
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susi
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:-)
sure you can trust the government....just ask an indian.
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Mama Shine
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OH_Ygq8qjg&feature=player_embedded
I must create a system, or be enslaved by another man's. ~William Blake

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Second Wind
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Oh, Mama. What an incredible song. Crying.......

Sounds like she knows what it's like, doesn't it?



"In the end, only kindness matters."
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Project Co-ordinators

Mind-control operations always involve an appointed project co-ordinator. The co-ordinator is the strategic driving force behind the operation and is often in control of funding initiatives, equipment, staffing levels and the distribution of workloads.

The co-ordinator knows his department and subject area well, and may spend precious time holding talks and presentations throughout Great Britain at renowned universities, such as Cranfield. He is a well-paid specialist and more often than not has a Masters degree or PhD title to his name.

As the head co-ordinator it is his task to be on the lookout for new opportunities to market, network, expand and spread the word about his work and team.

Primarily the co-ordinator services the government but, dependant on the political environment, secrecy acts and commercial influences, expertise and implantable devices are granted deployment by private institutes and overseas military forces.

A project co-ordinator’s investigations, for example, may uncover a way to cause temporary paralysis in implanted victims without the use of drug administration but using electromagnetic stimulation.

This research is likely to remain classified for the immediate but, eventually, could be used for mob-management strategy on a global perspective.

The traditional utilisation of police batons, tear gas, dogs and horses to calm rioting crowds would be replaced with an electromagnetic beam (transmitted from portable transmitters and receivers), which would hit all human brains within a ten-metre radius.

The beam would cause immediate paralysis in marching rioters, making the booking and arrest process considerably easier. This strategy would lessen the damage to property, decrease the number of police casualties and relieve pressure from emergency services.

An electromagnetic beam like this transmitted from a tank could also be utilised on the battlefield to incapacitate enemy forces without killing them, instead rendering them too sick to fight.

Consultants

The consultants comprise an invaluable team. Like the project co-ordinator, they are high-flying, wealthy academics – the best and brightest specialists Britain has to offer. They are the intelligence scientists who oversee projects and advise on all aspects of the mind control scheme.

The development of an implant in general requires the full attention and expertise of many consultants, some of them foreign if absolutely necessary. They comprise of the following:

Neurologists and associate medical staff who understand the brain and its complicated activity

Engineers and medical/pharmaceutical establishments who can design and work the circuitry for miniaturised implants to be tested on animals and, eventually, humans. (These implants must be easy to insert, hygienically clean and safe to use on a permanent basis.)

Sociologists and statisticians who understand human culture, economic trends and factors that influence them, e.g. birth rate, life expectancy, educational standards, the British population’s health, racial ratios, religious persuasion, class and finance, migration rates and gender studies.

Factory contractors who can mass produce implant technology in secret and at a reasonable price.

Psychologists and psychiatrists who can predict human behaviour under diverse environmental influences and produce behavioural models based on induced mental states.

IT and telecommunications staff who can produce customised communication systems, software and interactive devices to enable the safe, covert detection, monitoring and transmission of information over vast areas of space quickly.

Without appropriate input from consultants to advise, research, direct observations and analyse data, the project co-ordinator and the rest of the mind-control team are completely lost in their pursuits and lack the skills to forward the project to greater heights.

Field Agents

Field Agents are the mind control administrators. Their role is primarily concentrated on interacting with the victim in liaison with the project co-ordinator and consultants’ requests. They ensure the close monitoring of the victim’s life and the networking of information between internal staff. Field agents work in numbers of two or more.

Field agents must find an effective way to induce and nurture the behaviour that the consultants wish to observe in the victim. This means attempting to control the environment and anything else that may influence the victim’s behaviour.

Harassment revolves around the victim’s lifestyle and identity, which may be split into two major areas of activity;

Home Life and Recreation

Work Life

Where home life is concerned, field agents concentrate on family relations and activities.

In this arena agents make frequent contact with the subject’s kin, flashing law-enforcement badges to establish authority.

A study on depression and trauma, for instance, requires that the subject be depressed for extended periods of time, and sometimes chronic depressive states have to be induced to acquire the necessary electrode readings.

Family contacts ensure the subject is spoken to at necessary intervals and treated accordingly to aid the research process. This may entail boosting the subject’s self-confidence or lowering it using instructed verbal communication, physical body language and inclusion/exclusion tactics.

Families are more often than not happy to comply with demands, especially if they are led to believe that co-operation may improve their loved one’s welfare in some way.

(Many are bribed, and many are threatened into compliance.)


Observation of the employment work-place routine enables agents to familiarise themselves with the layout of the building and environmental psychology – the lunch room, toilet facilities, common rooms, entrances and exits, and so on.

This is so they may quickly identify where the victim’s work station is situated and how he will move in and around the office on a daily basis.

Agents endeavour to create an artificial environment where the victim’s every move is interacted with, controlled and manipulated on cue to produce prolonged depressive states.

Work associates and managers are approached by the agents in the same way as family members are, to ensure the environmental psychology is in the correct balance and remains so for the duration.

They are also active networkers who keep intact the sourcing of contacts like the local GP. Targets of these studies are likely to visit the doctor more often than average. The subject will convey information to the GP about his health, which may be of extreme interest and aids the research gathering process.

In this event, field agents ensure the victim is sent to the relevant specialist and receives meticulous medical examination. Copies of the results are forwarded to the IS who, upon receipt, will understand the influence their harassment is having.

Field agents are great believers in economic sabotage, which is often utilised in attempts to force a victim’s lifestyle to diversify in accordance with research expansion.

Great Britain, for instance, is run by hundreds of different governmental authorities who as a collective help manage citizenry and divvy up benefits.

Agents understand that the careful, orchestrated withdrawal of these services can both damage and improve human welfare relatively swiftly.

The following two theories identify the key ideologies behind economic sabotage.

Employment = Pay Cheque

The ‘employment = pay cheque’ concept surmises that human survival in Britain comes down to career prospects and financial status.

The capital raised from employment ultimately dictates the quality of lifestyle and opportunity a subject may pave for himself.

This encompasses educational advantage, his stake in the property market, travel capability, nutritional diet, the size of family he may comfortably afford, investment opportunities, recreational activities and the possession of commodities like cars, computers, digital TV and telephones.

Using their law-enforcement status, field agents manipulate subjects into periods of employment and unemployment, in order to best accommodate their mind control project goals.

Welfare State = Public Welfare

The ‘welfare state = public welfare’

The welfare state and tax system ensures funds are allotted to those who most require them as this strategy creates a sense of equality and inclusion amongst the classes.

Most importantly, the minimal human requirements of food, water and shelter are met because British citizens are granted access to a number of statutory public services.

Organisations like the Home Office, NHS, Social Services, Citizen Advice Bureaus, city councils, police forces and legal aid firms are instrumental to this welfare strategy.

In this arena the field agents’ aim is to manipulate the advice, welfare service quality and customer care that the subject receives in a way which meets project criterion.

The ‘marginalisation’ of the victim within society is most essential; it is important that every aspect of the subject’s life is under magnified analysis and is controllable down to the minutest components.


Experimental Subjects – Locating Specimens

Acquiring subjects to serve as guinea pigs for research has never been easier for the IS. The NHS (National Health Service) has an ever growing waiting list of citizens scheduled to visit consultants for a vast variety of ailments and treatments.

Registered citizens across Britain have an allocated NHS number and medical record, which enables security forces to identify individuals by:

Name and address
Date of Birth
Gender
Medical History
Active Treatments
Family Relations

The IS search the NHS medical-file databases for potential victims of relevant identity, and also have access to medical departments within prisons, military bases and psychiatric institutes to maximise catchments.

In this arena, operating-theatre staff are sworn to secrecy under security act legislation.

This isn’t to say, however, that medical staff are acutely aware that the patient concerned might be molested while under the influence of anaesthesia. In a realistic scenario how does a surgeon tell whether an acute probe is designed for medical intervention or for surveillance and torture?

If a doctor does, in fact, suspect foul play, how does he deny an agent access to a patient without falling foul of the law himself?

Doctors have no jurisdiction over their patients’ welfare where security forces are concerned. Security forces still retain the legal right:

to transfer a patient to another hospital against his wishes

to extradite a patient without medical treatment

to administer whatever medical intervention to a patient they so wish, with or without his consent and knowledge

Looking at the ‘experimental subjects’ theory, it’s easy to understand how MCs ‘pick to order’ their subjects and distribute implants to so many.




The Design, Testing and Analysis of Implants

There are six essential stages to the IS testing and analysis strategy.

Research

Design

Testing and Refinement

Implementation

Analysis

Conclusion

Where Research is concerned, consultants analyse the success of bygone experiments as well as appreciate the modern. This entails briefings with professionals of the relevant field and scouring the bookshelves of medical and military libraries for data-collection purposes.

Case studies will be sought and investigated (depicting both success and failure) to highlight potential complications and spark innovative ideas.

Foreign intelligence, if available, dictates the plans of action and overall development of implant design, which must be competitive on a global scale and outperform those already in circulation.

Using all the relevant research the consultants have collated, they must then Design a strategy that will help them achieve their objective.

They will have to decide whether or not it is feasible to conduct the project overtly or covertly.

In the case of a proposed experiment on a human being, the individual’s identity, age, race, class and occupation will be important.

It will be decided whether or not the experimentee is consenting or unwitting, and how one is to go about finding an individual who meets the criteria and specified characteristics.

The IS work in networked multi-disciplinary groups, so at some point relevant participants like doctors, military men and psychologists will meet and discuss the options available, and the feasibility and funding of the proposed operation.

Various implant designs are sought and their properties investigated.

A pilot study will be performed for Testing and Refinement purposes.

Obviously there is the chance of the project design being flawed; it may be that newly programmed equipment is faulty, staff aren’t sure of their role or invaluable resources and funding are withdrawn or dwindled away too quickly for the study to be concluded.

Mistakes are corrected at this point and extensive adjustments made to the overall scheme of things.

It is possible in rare circumstances that the entire project is abandoned and that the IS decide to start anew.

At this point in the testing phase they have a vague idea of how the study will pull together, the budgeting costs, the risks involved and the quality of research likely to be acquired.

At the Implementation stage the team have ascertained where and when the research will be conducted.

They will have acquired a number of human subjects who they may tap for research at relevant intervals.

Surveillance and monitoring equipment is set up and professionals who can translate the output are hired.

Telemetric data is recorded and archived whilst undercover field agents are deployed to subjects’ places of domicile to cover environmental and social influences.

The manipulation and sabotage of the subjects’ lives will commence only if deemed crucial to the objective.

The Analysis and Conclusion involves the dissemination of research.

Dependant on the surveillance systems used, results may be sent away to laboratory scientists who test and analyse data.

The majority of scientists approached aren’t necessarily part of the IS team and are unaware that the research has been acquired illegally.

Once the reports are compiled, the IS set about building a picture of individual case files and eventually incorporate the information into a larger overview.

They can look for common correlations and patterns of behaviour in the data and statistics. How the data is analysed will obviously vary, dependent on whether the study was to offer investigative, interventive or preventive insight.

The experimentees don’t have faces; they are simply part of a statistic, which is extracted from a computer database for intelligence committees to scrutinise.

The final conclusion basically encompasses all the information based on the extensive analysis.

If the experiments proved successful there is the option of pursuing research further or remaining content and assessing ways of incorporating the intelligence into future operations.

From a military perspective the IS have made substantial headway with implant technology. They have come to the realisation that the human body is a magnificent weapon in itself, and that all they need do is add a few refined capabilities.

Radio Equipment. Surgically implanted sound-sensitive microphones enable operatives to eavesdrop on the verbal interactions occurring within their target’s physical range. This replaces the often favoured ordeal of bugging household premises.

Voice to skull (microwave hearing) also enables field agents to speak to their target by transmitting electromagnetic radio frequencies directly to the auditory nerve.

Electromagnetic Stimulation of the Spine/Brain. Permanently implanted electrodes can inflict serious illness, physical wounds and pain.

This replaces the common requirement of torture instruments.

Self-destruct Equipment. Throughout military history it hasn’t been uncommon for captives to carry poison pills as a means to commit suicide in the event of capture.

Nor has it been uncommon for agents to plant bombs within buildings to kill VIP adversaries at close range.

A miniaturised bomb may be implanted within the target’s body and detonated on cue. This way bombs get through Customs undetected and may be carried into high-security establishments, such as the Pentagon.

Tracking Implants. Operatives may locate their targeted victim on a global scale and ascertain their whereabouts by country, borough and street name.

Telemetric Monitoring. Devices implanted in the right regions of the brain or body would alert operatives to their target’s general state of health, like levels of pain and sleep patterns.

Operatives are also able to ascertain, from bio-readings, psychological state of mind, stress, body temperature and breathing, etc.

Realistically a surgically implanted intelligence agent could infiltrate the most dangerous of terrorist groups, identifying culprits and hierarchy, how the terrorist group forms and disperses, and where funding and resources are sourced.

The agent may sabotage the operation from the inside whilst adding to Her Majesty’s Secret Service’s wealth of intelligence.

MCVs engulfed in the design, testing and analysis strategy are simply pawns on a chess board.

The implants they carry are the early indicators of the British government’s ‘Big Brother’ nation. Mind-control implants are primarily designed to be carried by British spies and dissidents (for covert-surveillance purposes) to track and annihilate the operations of terrorists, criminals and other enemies of state.

MCVs are, therefore, the unfortunate casualties of the government’s experimental testing phase, not the long-term ultimate targets.

Civilians are the safe alternative to testing on the real thing where, if the outcome is disastrous, the knock-on effects are limited.

To deploy a bugged British spy to the Pentagon and be rumbled would be a catastrophic embarrassment to the British government and could, in extreme circumstance, damage American and British relations.

The Americans would detain the spy, torture him for intelligence and demand a full explanation from the British.

If a suitable explanation wasn’t forthcoming, they would consider the death penalty if their security had been compromised.

Preliminary testing phases are only extended to those whose identity is inconsequential. Only once a technique has been tried and tested over and over with guaranteed results will it be used on an enemy of the state.

The IS are repeatedly committing crimes in attempts to enhance the safety and security of their country. In this vicious game of silent warfare all casualties are expendable.



http://geeldon.wordpress.com/category/gaslighting-2/page/2/
"In the end, only kindness matters."
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Second Wind
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Mind control is a form of brain rape and torture; whether the affliction is caused by drug administration, electromagnetic stimulation, brainwashing or the nurture of personality disorders, the end result remains the same. The target is forced to endure continued harassments. IS mind control, in particular, is likened to slavery because the target’s brain and mind are tapped for research against his will. He is helpless to prevent the intrusion and resist the brain’s physical and mental reaction to electrode stimulation.

To date the American Guantanamo military base displays the most public flagrant disregard for human rights where systematic mind control is highly prevalent.

Freed captives have accused the CIA of utilising sensory-deprivation and sound-technology techniques to install in them fear and hypnotic suggestions.

They’ve been denied physical exercise, exposed to severe temperatures and prevented from prayer and conversation.

When captives have disobeyed they have been beaten, kicked, stripped naked, sexually harassed and threatened with dogs.

On the odd occasion captives have been doused with urine and threats have been made towards their families if information wasn’t forthcoming in the interrogation room.

Slowly but surely the restraints which have kept the human brain and mind inviolable are being eroded by science.


So long as it remains national policy to protect the security of the British nation and its interests, the government will strive to produce mind control techniques that are ever more invasive and efficient. Mind control is such an integrative component of military warfare now that research pertaining to its use is highly classified.

The government, of course, denies that Mind Controllers exist. Exposure of their antics would prove undoubtedly that the government is committing criminal acts against the people it is sworn to protect. Exposure would also make folly of the laws which govern civilised society.

The answer to the problem is certainly clear; MCs are criminals and should be prosecuted as such. Greater openness and education regarding mind control will help aid the legal process and eventual conviction of the perpetrators who wish to make political and financial gain from the suffering of others.

It is especially important that those involved in mental health understand mind control methodology and find ways to effectively treat and reverse the prolonged physical and psychological effects endured by victims and their families.

"In the end, only kindness matters."
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blue
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remember the tinman . . .
hauntingly beautiful

tracy chapman has one of my favorite voices. and she seems to have many of the best songs, too :-)
We are the ones we've been waiting for.
Hopi Elders 2001.

to be a rock and still to roll . . .
change we can believe in is here -- The Ed Show
Love is the Way ~ Jesus of Nazareth
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Roxanne
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SW, Chills. Explains so much. Hard to be on the receiving end of this.

Blue, I love Tracy Chapmans' voice, too.
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bean
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SW...I guess the Nazi mentality is alive and thriving well in the government, " Of the people, by the people and for the people.."
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Stephen in AZ
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Stopping by...
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Second Wind
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Just want to thank you Stephen, for your obvious sensitivity (empathy), in your determination over all these years, to keep alive threads that you KNOW have importance.

It matters not to you how many members consider them important.

Even if only "one" considers it important (even if YOU are that "one"), then you are sensitive enough to recognize the value and importance of that "one".

Above that, I know that YOU know, that there are always several (at least) who understand the importance of the threads you help to keep alive. And any who object to that, well....they have their own agenda, which falls far short of compassion.

More to come.......perhaps.....
"In the end, only kindness matters."
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Buddie
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At your distance
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Mama Shine
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Just because the subject of mind control
has ebbed here doesn't mean it isn't still
going on. It is. For the targets to break
down and complain only in turn makes them
seem fanciful and weak. That's part of the game.
To the ones that are suffering in silence I
send understanding and that's about all I can
send because any flowery words are just wasted
against the dark force of mind control. It's
impossible to put the subject into words. But
it isn't impossible to acknowledge it still goes on.
The greatest thing you'll ever learn
Is just to love and be loved in return.
~Nature Boy

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kathy decker
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I also would like to thank Stephen for keeping these threads alive..as I have grown and learned more over time, I have revisited some of these threads, especially those that I was not interested in initially.

I have learned much.

Thanks again.
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Buddie
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Me Too
Thanks Steven
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bean
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.." Just because the subject of mind control has ebbed here, doesn't mean it still isn't going on.."

Just turn on the TV....if THAT isn't mind control...I don't know what is!
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Mama Shine
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That sinking feeling you get when
all of a sudden you realize you're
just a name on a list.
Some things you have to learn the hard
way.
The greatest thing you'll ever learn
Is just to love and be loved in return.
~Nature Boy

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cherokee
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"Just turn on the TV....if THAT isn't mind control...I don't know what is!"

What mind control is on TV? Commercials?

Do you buy everything that is advertised on TV?

Commercials or otherwise, what on TV seized control of your mind and once they controlled your mind what did they have you do?

Has every person who has ever watched TV had their mind seized and are actually being controlled by someone else? Everyone who has ever watched TV is not responsible for any thing they do?

Everyone but the Amish are mind controlled zombie robots?

Best Wishes from Mole Hollow
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bean
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Cherokee... GEEZE LOUISE.......OK..I'll say ATTEMPT at mind control..Does that work better for you??

commercials attempt
News coverage attempts
shows, movies,..attempt

If you cannot see that much effort goes into creating, pushing a way of thinking from the boob tube, then you are being very naive or
something....don't know what.

In my thinking, mind control doesn't have to be the blatant over the top examples of complete control over ones life ...which you've mentioned in the above. In politics..they might call it...slant or spin...Subtle forms of "push" to make leaning in a paticular direction more comfortable to the "pushee" ..that which is desired by the "pusher."

To me, this is attempting to control..If you don't see it that way...oh well..then I just disagree..
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cherokee
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None of that controles anyone's mind.

They "attempt" to control minds? Then they completely fail over and over and over again. Gee you'd think they'd have learned by now.

Showing you a product and touting it's advantages is an offer not an attempt at mind control. You are still in complete control of your thoughts and able to decide for yourself whether you want that product or not.

You buy things. Have you ever purchased anything because the TV or other ad controlled your mind? Or do you purchase things based on your own thought processes?

There are people who think someone is attempting to control their mind and they wear tin foil hats to stop them. They're called paranoid schizophrenics.

Probably the most criticised ads are those Saturday morning ones aimed at children for Snacky-Crackies with Raisin Pits with Sugar Overdose.

Yet the little kiddies don't grab their wallets, get in the car, and drive to the grocery store. They don't have money unless their parents give them some and they don't drive. Those adds work- on the parents. Parents giving in to whiny kids. Parents who don't say no. Parents who don't ensure their children have a healthy diet. Those ads work only on children who have bad parents.

Our kids wanted practically everything they saw on TV. Too bad.

Best Wishes from Mole Hollow

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