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     anna Senior Member Username: anna Post Number: 3232 Registered: 9-2002 |
Here's a few ideas, (since my thread evaporated) most can be found on sale cheap, thrift stores, etc... candles matches batteries (replace as needed) kerosene kerosene heaters are cheap on eBay (read directions) other non-electric heat sources oil lamps/wicks drinking water (gallon jugs cheap) tp papertowels kleenex hand sanitizer canned fruits, meats, nuts, veggies meds pet foods/meds basic otc meds for- colds, flu, stomach problems, tylenol, wound care, ointments If you had to eat cold meals for a few days what would you want to have ahead of time? No cook items- "pilot bread", crackers, nuts, canned fruits/milk, cereals, water, etc. I took a spare closet and converted it into a pantry since we didn't have one. I buy thing at the grocery outlet and in bulk and add on a regular basis. I re-use old jars, baggies, etc. "To insist that the only reality are phenomenon that can be submitted to the paradigm of classical science is itself a religion" - Dietrick Thomson, Science Magazine Energy-Creations.com | ||
| animalspirits Senior Member Username: animalspiritstalstarcom Post Number: 8701 Registered: 10-2006 |
For those of you that are stockpiling canned foods...they do have expiration dates, so you have to continually restock to remain current. Then there comes the question: What do you do with the out of date stuff you hoarded? Understand that all things are sacred--yet nothing is sacred. ~Yotee Coyote | ||
| allen Senior Member Username: eastsider01 Post Number: 2215 Registered: 4-2005 |
A month before it's expiration date send it to the homeless shelter.. | ||
| Found Goat New member Username: foundgoat Post Number: 42 Registered: 8-2010 |
Toothpicks Climbing gear Deodorant Breath mints Rosary Canteen Lighter Shovel Ear plugs Jack knife Inflatable Dingy Azz wipe (doesn't matter what color) Joke book Condiments Nail clippers Streamers Life-jacket Port-A-Potty (preferably one that comes with an attendant) Sleeping bag Contraceptives Camouflage clothing Night-vision goggles Flares Whistle Hired Bodyguards Pens (no pencils) Diary/Journal Bereavement gift cards. | ||
| anna Senior Member Username: anna Post Number: 3242 Registered: 9-2002 |
yes, just rotate your canned goods, so you never have to get rid of anything. I prefer dried stuff myself. Longer shelf life. Also- store games, cards, etc. to have something to DO! "To insist that the only reality are phenomenon that can be submitted to the paradigm of classical science is itself a religion" - Dietrick Thomson, Science Magazine Energy-Creations.com | ||
| esotericha Intermediate Member Username: esotericha Post Number: 149 Registered: 7-2010 |
good god fg, you forgot coffee!!!!! now get all that down to a backpack, and then you're ready and practice, practice, practice! - take your survival kit out into the woods and see if you can live out of it for a few days and be sure to write down the stuff you realize you need - pare down constantly, as much as is ever possible - the lighter the better and practice with no running water either, which makes for a whole new experience (Message edited by esotericha on September 11, 2010) | ||
| animalspirits Senior Member Username: animalspiritstalstarcom Post Number: 8716 Registered: 10-2006 |
good god fg, you forgot the most important thing: flint (to make fire with after your matches are wet or you run out of them). Understand that all things are sacred--yet nothing is sacred. ~Yotee Coyote | ||
| sahgwa Advanced Member Username: sahgwa Post Number: 297 Registered: 3-2010 |
not just flint flint and steel. with cotton wool and also dryer lint.  i was a boy scout i am always prepared. except right now  Observation convinces me that there are beings of intelligence higher than human and that the only chance for mankind to advance as a whole is for individuals to make contact with such Beings.Crowley | ||
| moonbeam Senior Member Username: mia Post Number: 802 Registered: 9-2009 |
Get a shower bag in case you get a chance to have a bath. They are pretty cool and you can hang them from a tree and the sun will warm the water, even if it is cool outside. String comes in handy too, for fishing, clothes lines, hanging your food supplies up from animals, etc. | ||
| Skin Shed Mon Senior Member Username: shedmyskin Post Number: 3299 Registered: 1-2007 |
I posted this on the other thread but I will here too, I can say this stuff works great. www.firesteel.com Rains some very hot sparks. once you have one of these forget matches, lighters in your survival pack. They will light up dryer lint very nice. In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart. I simply can't build up my hopes on a foundation consisting of confusion, misery and death. -Anne Frank | ||
| Skin Shed Mon Senior Member Username: shedmyskin Post Number: 3300 Registered: 1-2007 |
Having a book of what is safe to eat in your natural environment where you live is a good idea too, I've been meaning to look into that. Nice to know what roots of what plants you can live off of if you have to for a few days. mmmmm roots. In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart. I simply can't build up my hopes on a foundation consisting of confusion, misery and death. -Anne Frank | ||
| anna Senior Member Username: anna Post Number: 3248 Registered: 9-2002 |
Lots of cold/flu otc meds cheap right now... "To insist that the only reality are phenomenon that can be submitted to the paradigm of classical science is itself a religion" - Dietrick Thomson, Science Magazine Energy-Creations.com | ||
| susi Senior Member Username: etsi Post Number: 2945 Registered: 11-2009 |
get a set of foxfire books. sure you can trust the government....just ask an indian. | ||
| anna Senior Member Username: anna Post Number: 3261 Registered: 9-2002 |
You can get many used... "To insist that the only reality are phenomenon that can be submitted to the paradigm of classical science is itself a religion" - Dietrick Thomson, Science Magazine Energy-Creations.com | ||
| anna Senior Member Username: anna Post Number: 3273 Registered: 9-2002 |
Candles are good this times of year, flashlights too... "To insist that the only reality are phenomenon that can be submitted to the paradigm of classical science is itself a religion" - Dietrick Thomson, Science Magazine Energy-Creations.com | ||
| anna Senior Member Username: anna Post Number: 3274 Registered: 9-2002 |
And leftover halloween candy "To insist that the only reality are phenomenon that can be submitted to the paradigm of classical science is itself a religion" - Dietrick Thomson, Science Magazine Energy-Creations.com | ||
| moonbeam Senior Member Username: mia Post Number: 878 Registered: 9-2009 |
dried eggs and milk might come in handy | ||
| Jimmy Senior Member Username: chippyo Post Number: 1473 Registered: 8-2002 |
Check it out, cities in water shortages, like teh journal said "find a deep clean water well": http://247wallst.com/2010/10/29/the-ten-great-american-cities-that-are-dying-of- thirst/ "Don't take life to seriously;no one gets out alive." | ||
| a brother Senior Member Username: upaava Post Number: 879 Registered: 5-2003 |
Greetings, we are relatives, Land is Life, It will be good to have a book on basic survival skills (such as a Boy Scout manual), including sources of natural healing and medical skills used when living of the land, e.g. recognizing herbs and their uses; diagnostic methods such as iridology and pulse diagnosis; basic applied kinesiology; massage techniques; castor oil packs; therapeutic touch and other hands on healing methods. It will also be good to have first aid information, natural birthing information, knowledge of how to find and accumulate water, alternative power sources, alternative toilets, among other subjects needed to survive independently. There will also likely be small communities that pool their resources and knowledge. Do not underestimate the power of prayer and meditation to help guide you along your ways. I hope this helps your preparations to remain and survive with our Mother Earth in the days ahead. May the sun always shine upon you, your brother | ||
| Buddie Senior Member Username: buddie Post Number: 3661 Registered: 3-2008 |
I Hope Our Blood will still Want Each Other.. | ||
| anna Senior Member Username: anna Post Number: 3311 Registered: 9-2002 |
A brother, glad to see you here!!! Be well... And intuition is your best tool, it will save you when provisions won't... http://www.cartville.com/app/?af=1287624 Energy-Creations.com | ||
| Ghostwheel Intermediate Member Username: jvmss Post Number: 105 Registered: 4-2010 |
Being someone who backpacks frequently, I have a couple of suggestions. These are great for boiling water, if you can't build a fire. They are also good for starting a fire in wet conditions... http://zenstoves.net/StoveChoices.htm So...if you can boil water in camping cookware (whether on a fire or stove)...you can stockpile some of there. Expiration dates are VERY far away. It's not the best tasting, but it will keep you alive: http://www.mountainhouse.com/ Make sure you get the ones that you can just "add boiling water and eat". Mixing the ingredients is a pain, and requires extra dishes. With most of em, you just add the water and eat right out of the bag. "Remember that there exists a certain malevolence about the formation of any social order. It is the struggle for existence by an artificial entity." | ||
| chriscrd Advanced Member Username: chriscrd Post Number: 274 Registered: 9-2006 |
One of the most important things you can own are good knives and the tools to sharpen them with. There are many good survival knives available, but good knives do not come cheap. It is one of the most important things you can own that is used for so many things. | ||
| animalspirits Senior Member Username: animalspiritstalstarcom Post Number: 9498 Registered: 10-2006 |
Buck Knives...I love Buck Knives. For those of you that are going to stockpile, be sure you have a good skinning knife (Buck makes one) because you will be skinning animals in order to eat. I learned to skin animals using 'road kills' to do so. I can case a Fox so well that the whole face including the eye lashes and whiskers are intact. If you do something that is protected in your State, you can write Fish and Game and get a permit to possess that animal's fur. I know because I did it for two Foxes.  Understand that all things are sacred--yet nothing is sacred. ~Yotee Coyote Blog: http://animalspirits--withoutfear.blogspot.com | ||
| anna Senior Member Username: anna Post Number: 3331 Registered: 9-2002 |
I saw some bags you can line your toilet bowl with if you lose water for a while, (and the ground is frozen) great idea! http://www.cartville.com/app/?af=1287624 Energy-Creations.com | ||
| Whitley Strieber Moderator Username: strieber Post Number: 768 Registered: 2-2001 |
The problem with Mountain House is that they are almost totally sold out of everything except small backpacker items. No #10 cans, no 7 day kits, nothing like that. | ||
| bean Senior Member Username: tina Post Number: 1626 Registered: 12-2001 |
Another thing you might want to do is to have a few things that you can barter with....extra salt, sugar, honey..rice, beans, spices...batteries. ANNA...where are you finding your dried vegis?...or are you doing it your self? | ||
| anna Senior Member Username: anna Post Number: 3343 Registered: 9-2002 |
I dry most of my own- bought a food dehydrator cheap, use fresh or frozen vegs (thawed), like sliced carrots, green beans, etc. That way they're already prepped. I still have good, dried cherries from 5 years ago, from our cherry tree.... I like this company, where I bought dehydrated butter, milk and specially packaged bread yeast- www.beprepared.com or google "emergency essentials" http://www.cartville.com/app/?af=1287624 Energy-Creations.com | ||
| anna Senior Member Username: anna Post Number: 3344 Registered: 9-2002 |
Good info here too- http://preparednesspantry.blogspot.com/ especially with what happened in Japan... http://www.cartville.com/app/?af=1287624 Energy-Creations.com | ||
| Hagbard Celine New member Username: hagbard Post Number: 2 Registered: 3-2011 |
If you are really serious about preparedness you should make http://www.survivalblog.com/ a daily visit (or RSS the site for a permanent record). | ||
| Hagbard Celine New member Username: hagbard Post Number: 5 Registered: 3-2011 |
From beginner to ... Another reason to frequent that site (and nope I have no affiliation whatsoever with them) http://www.survivalblog.com/2010/11/from_beginning_prepper_to_full.html | ||
| cherokee Senior Member Username: cherokee Post Number: 767 Registered: 2-2001 |
Times are tough right now and they could get a whole lot worse. Anyone stocking up or preparing for a time of need? If so how so? One of the reasons we moved to Mole Hollow was to be able to be in a position to handle times of trouble, to be able to carry on independently. After escaping persecution, the Mormons settled in Utah, a land no one wanted. Being basically a desert, a drought brought hard times. So they adopted the practice of keeping a year's supply of food on hand and have done so ever since. Now they try to keep a two year supply. Very wise. One can think that harder times will not come. Or if you think it is possible, what steps should you take? Should you consider that electricity could fail? No electricity, no water from the tap, no food at the stores, no natural gas in the lines, no fuel at the pumps. Do you consider that in the realm of possibility? Storms and other natural disasters can and have resulted in that for extended periods of time. How long should one be prepared for? Two weeks, months, indefinitely? How are you set for food? Where will you get water? How will you heat your home? History has shown that it takes only three days for a complete societal breakdown. If you have any of the above are you prepared to defend yourself and your family in the event there is a total breakdown of law and order? We have a year's supply of food and next growing season plan to expand that to two years. Since we grow a lot of food we are prepared to plant every season. We have wood heat and obtain our wood from fallen trees on our own property. And we have a dependable source of water. We also have the car of the future here today- the horse. Some things won't last forever. Things imported from the tropics like coffee, spices, etc. Also things like sugar and toilet paper. Amazing how we take so many things for granted. | ||
| Steve DoD Advanced Member Username: stevedod Post Number: 315 Registered: 7-2010 |
2012, towards the end of the year is going to be a large change for many people. Please thank the news who will stir a large pot starting around June. It may be a good idea to stock up for awhile until the news stops driving people to go crazy. Sad but true. Steve | ||
| fortwynt Senior Member Username: john_doe420 Post Number: 1389 Registered: 10-2009 |
unless its already been mentioned, toilet paper would be an excellent item to barter with if, say, society suddenly crumbles. ================================ http://www.facebook.com/fortwynt http://www.youtube.com/fortwynt ================================ | ||
| Steve DoD Advanced Member Username: stevedod Post Number: 317 Registered: 7-2010 |
Good one I agree Steve | ||
| fortwynt Senior Member Username: john_doe420 Post Number: 1392 Registered: 10-2009 |
And let us not forget....*drum roll*....tampons. Now that will perhaps even be more valuable, in crumbled society-type scenario, than even toilet paper...or at least equal to. ================================ http://www.facebook.com/fortwynt http://www.youtube.com/fortwynt ================================ | ||
| animalspirits Senior Member Username: animalspiritstalstarcom Post Number: 10384 Registered: 10-2006 |
whippersnapper, Not for me. Toilet paper is primary, but then I don't use tampons anymore and use toilet paper with increasing frequency.  ma Understand that all things are sacred--yet nothing is sacred. ~Yotee Coyote Website: http://beyondvibration.org Blog: http://animalspirits--withoutfear.blogspot.com | ||
| bean Senior Member Username: tina Post Number: 1869 Registered: 12-2001 |
If power is an issue, extra tanks for the bbq will be helpful when you need to cook something. As I've said before, Salt is necessary and can be bartered. Vitamin C will keep and can be bartered. Rice. Extra dry food for your animals a must. Soap all kinds...Wash cloths, any kind of cloth actually. I'm always amazed how many clean rags I go thru when doing chores around the house. Keeping thing sanitary will be a huge issue. Bleach, peroxide, iodine, stuff like that..bandages, tape..all kinds. You can get mag. glasses at the dollar store...Good for bartering.. Needles, thread. The list is endless. These things we stash can help initally...but eventually, it's back to the very basic survival knowledge that has been dropped in our push button society. Find someone that knows how to do the basics. Cherokee!!! Can we all come and live with you? | ||
| fortwynt Senior Member Username: john_doe420 Post Number: 1395 Registered: 10-2009 |
i second that, cherokee! ================================ http://www.facebook.com/fortwynt http://www.youtube.com/fortwynt ================================ | ||
| cherokee Senior Member Username: cherokee Post Number: 789 Registered: 2-2001 |
Sure, why not. When doomsday falls, start walking this way. The daily struggle along the way, surviving packs of starving wild dogs, roving bands of pirates, and finding food, shelter, and warmth...say, sounds like a pilot for a TV movie. | ||
| susi Senior Member Username: etsi Post Number: 5102 Registered: 11-2009 |
i've always had this little thing inside of me that not only yearns for the simpler life (back to nature) but feels this is just what everyone needs to get their priorities straight. i wish i had paid more attention to when i was young and daddy would take me for walks and point out the plants and their properties. he always said if one had the knowledge, no matter where they were, they wouldn't starve. sure you can trust the government....just ask an indian. | ||
| man in Senior Member Username: thirdpal Post Number: 697 Registered: 1-2010 |
http://www.youtube.com/user/chipotle?v=aMfSGt6rHos&feature=pyv&ad=9074667186&kw= music great little video | ||
| cherokee Senior Member Username: cherokee Post Number: 802 Registered: 2-2001 |
"i've always had this little thing inside of me that not only yearns for the simpler life (back to nature)" That's what we thought. Ha! Ah, yes, the simple country life. Laid back slow country living. Be careful what you wish for. Turns out, we've never worked so hard. When we got here I made a list. Wuz gonna complete it I was. Still got "the list." Seems like when one thing is marked off, two more are added. No doubt something new is cropping up as I type! So it goes. "but feels this is just what everyone needs to get their priorities straight." My priorities are set by the animules. They're bullies! They are in charge of this place, we their obedient servants, and they don't let us forget it for an instant. I go to bed at ten and up at dark thirty to be at their beck and call. They are very intelligent for they have had no problems training humans. From my own experience I know for a fact there is not a man alive who is smarter than the dumbest horse. Nor have I ever seen a person who could not be trained by a cat in short order. | ||
| man in Senior Member Username: thirdpal Post Number: 700 Registered: 1-2010 |
funny post cherokee. Though I teach now, I've been involved in the farming life and man, it is hard work. Lots of responsibility too. BUT and it's a big BUTT, it is so rewarding. I miss the hell out of it, and only wish I could afford to go back to it. I have over a hundred acres in the foothills of North Carolina. A little too far to visit every week as I live 2 and a half hours away. | ||
| cherokee Senior Member Username: cherokee Post Number: 805 Registered: 2-2001 |
Where in NC is your little piece of paradise? | ||
| man in Senior Member Username: thirdpal Post Number: 713 Registered: 1-2010 |
near Blowing Rock. I can hear the Tweetsie Railroad train whistle. | ||
| cherokee Senior Member Username: cherokee Post Number: 812 Registered: 2-2001 |
A little north of our hangouts but we've been there a few times. As all of the NC mountains, it's a beautiful area. The Tweetsie Railroad is world famous in the Southeast. Yer right, farming is very rewarding with a great sense of accomplishment. I have never lost the sense of wonder at all those various crops coming from planting small seeds. | ||
| man in Senior Member Username: thirdpal Post Number: 720 Registered: 1-2010 |
Tweetsie Railroad, at least the property it is on, is owned by the Robbins family. I was watching Jeopardy one night and there was a question about an author from Blowing Rock, and I thought, who the hell would that be. Turned out it was Tom Robbins, my favorite novelist. Never would have known. Blowing Rock is 3 miles away as the crow flies, but the property is so remote, it takes 50 minutes to get to BR. It is an interesting little resort town in which a number of celebrities have homes. Ben Affleck, Mick Jagger, etc... I never saw any of these folks, however. In 92 I bought the land for $250 an acre. I could get $5000 an acre easy now. Hope I don't have to sell it though. | ||
| Stephen Tenacé Senior Member Username: manymansions2 Post Number: 1980 Registered: 2-2011 |
In reading this thread I'm rather dumbfounded by the fatalistic and survivalist notion taking place; with the exception of the last few posts between ManIn and Cherokee. As a city slicker; I've lived through Earthquakes and Riots here in Southern California. People are so helpful and go out of their way to see to it that others are taken care of and provided for in such a way one wonders why society isn't like that all the time. A closet set aside for food and first aid doesn't do much good in a quake where your home is destroyed. What I have learned is to keep certain provisions in my car. Water, first of all, first aid kit second. Just this past weekend I replaced my fire extinguishers. Canned goods are horrible but I got a stock of chicken and tuna along with other properly packaged foods; and if you're that bent on stock piling on food there is always the Army Surplus store that carries packaged foods meant for troops on the battle field. Power bars I replace every six months... as for TP... trust me, you can do without. That's what water is for. One gallon of water can last three to five days per person for bathroom and washing needs. And again, trust me on this one... when there is a disaster of such a magnitude, you won't be hungry... you'll be eating out of the necessity to nourish, your bathroom time will be limited because you won't have to go. Besides, you be helping others in need. I don't have medical needs so I don't have to have extra medicines of any kind. My cat has three months of food and that can be cut in half to make his needs last longer. Plus, I keep extra flea prevention and worm pills around for him, if he'll need them. Guns... don't own them. But I know about the neighbors that do. I also have the crane radio Art Bell used to promote all the time. It's still in the box after 15 years ready to be used. Still works great and looks brand new. LOL And don't forget to have cash. Cash I found was needed, bartering was never the issue, because people give freely... cash, helps when your ATM/CC's can't be used for a variety of reasons. I laugh about stock piling a year or two of food. If we have that kind of an Armageddon... We are where we are supposed to be. I'm reminded of 9/11.... a shinning example of people coming together. This is all fine and dandy if a disaster strikes here at home. I was once in a situation in Washington State where I didn't know my azz from a hole in the ground. People saw that, and were extremely helpful, and I in turn, was able to make myself useful by my labor and communication skills. Just helping the best you can gives rewards unimaginable. It's always good to be prepared, but not to the point you have to move to the hills for fear that the sky is falling! Lovingly, Stephen (Message edited by manymansions2 on January 05, 2012) "Fear is the Thief of Dreams" - unknown author "If you have a golf ball sized consciousness, you experience a golf ball size reality." - David Lynch | ||
| man in Senior Member Username: thirdpal Post Number: 723 Registered: 1-2010 |
I've heard that war/battle is like that. A mix of heaven and hell. Hell in the situation you are in, but heaven in the brotherhood and feelings you have for your fellow warriors. If the sky does fall, I have a place in the hills for family and friends. | ||
| Stephen Tenacé Senior Member Username: manymansions2 Post Number: 1984 Registered: 2-2011 |
Hi ManIn... I faithfully believe I will be where I was intended to be; for what ever reason. I also believe in every posted thought herein. We are all where we are supposed to be. For myself, I was attracted to this site because of our "experiences" with another dimension/reality. We've all been shown what kind of outcome could be in our future and our emotions were tapped into. Therefore, the school of life presents itself to rise above ourselves. Our structured societies continue to be manipulated and changes are slow in coming. To be fatalistic is to be without faith. Unless, of course, your faith is to be fatalistic; like so many religious dogmas teach. I have a personal belief that the governments of the world have had knowledge from our ancient past. They have tapped into what gods created biblical teachings. 'Tis why my faith is in Our Great-Grandfather-Spirit. When in perfect alignment within ourselves we find where and when we are to be. We create our own heaven or hell. It's a freaking tap-dance to scoot around the mindsets that have been manipulated. I'll see ya all on the other side of 2012. "Fear is the Thief of Dreams" - unknown author "If you have a golf ball sized consciousness, you experience a golf ball size reality." - David Lynch |
