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brit
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Username: brit

Post Number: 17
Registered: 1-2012
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2013 - 7:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/8807761/wind-farms-vs-wildlife/
"The brighter the light, the darker the shadow."
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AverageCaucasianMan
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Username: mthood

Post Number: 616
Registered: 4-2012
Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Yes, of course the effects of carbon based energy are all a-ok, eh brit?
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AverageCaucasianMan
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Username: mthood

Post Number: 617
Registered: 4-2012
Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

http://www.newstatesman.com/sci-tech/2013/01/wind-farms-and-abuse-statistics-bir d-edition
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Michael Smith
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Post Number: 93
Registered: 7-2013
Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 7:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

From Brit's article "Most environmentalists just don’t want to know. Because they’re so desperate to believe in renewable energy, they’re in a state of denial."

This was in reference to the fact that wind turbines pose a threat to migrating birds, etc

Not true. I urge you to read Richard Heinberg's book "The Party Is Over". Heinberg is in fact an environmentalist and college professor who goes into great detail of the role that energy plays in modern, industrialized society and has consulted engineers and scientists on the energy returned on energy invested ratio of all the putative replacements for fossil fuels.

When he makes mention of wind farms, he notes that they require inputs from fossil fuels to build and replace, and mentions another draw back, that they are a threat to migrating birds and other species.

Yet, I don't think anyone, not even an environmentalist, wishes to live without electric lights, refrigeration, televisions and computers, some form of transportation other than bicycles or horses. Try to imagine your life without oil, electricity, and natural gas, which whether you wish to accept it or not, you will be facing in the next decade(s).

The coal industry likes to claim they have hundreds of years worth of deposits. What they fail to tell us is that much of that coal is of poor grade and requires almost as much energy to extract as it produces after being extracted, transported, and burned. The toxic byproducts of coal burning, namely mercury, have rendered most seafood in the oceans of the world unsafe for human consumption. The sulfuric acid released from massive coal burning produces acid rain which endangers forests and would acidify the oceans of the world.

In reality, they have about 30 years of viable, recoverable coal left, and they will not doubt resort to it, despite its environmental costs.

The other alternative with a high energy returned on energy invested ratio is nuclear power. Chernobyl and now proving to be far worse, Fukushima, are putting the lights out on that source, literally. Add a lot of lethal radioactivity to the food chains of the world's oceans to go with those toxic levels of mercury, talking about environmental hazards

If I were you, I would install wood burning stoves, make your own candles for lighting, grow your own food, and live in small agrarian communities where everything is within walking distance. Starting to plant trees now could help mitigate the deforestation problem that will occur when everyone is chopping wood to stay warm in the winter

That is the reality of your future, especially those of you who are younger, say in your 20s or 30s
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Michael Smith
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 7-2013
Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 7:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

In fact, Heinberg is the senior fellow at the post carbon institute and now considered the world's leading expert on the issue. http://www.postcarbon.org/person/36200-richard-heinberg

His works are highly recommended. Watch his interviews on youtube
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Michael Smith
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Post Number: 97
Registered: 7-2013
Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 8:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Watch this interview and The End Of Growth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl8ZHDQQY7I

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