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     kathy decker Intermediate Member Username: fand Post Number: 185 Registered: 3-2011 |
It has been 25 years since a childlike visitor took me in a bubble like craft to view our earth.He explained to me that he inhabited a parallel planet, unseen to us here but very real,nonetheless. I was told to look at the arctic polar region, and that the ice was beginning to melt at an accelerated rate. Then he said"Your world is ending...we cannot intervene." Now I sit in my living room,watching NBC news, mainstream media, as Diane Sawyer highlights a story about the melting of the polar ice caps and climate change. I wonder...what was meant by "your world is ending"? My world? The end of life and convenience I have always known? Or something even more ominous? I don 't discuss it much, interactions I have had with those clearly not of this earth. I do not have the bravery Whitley has shown, and I certainly don't want to cause my family and friends the kind of ridicule he has endured over the years for his candor.But I am telling you now, I have had enough interaction with these particular gentle, childlike beings to trust them. They, and many others of an intergalactic and multidimensional group of beings hold the human race in the highest regard.Yes,there are others that do not, and would exploit us if at all possible,but these sweet creatures live by a law of love. So, consider this a warning.My personal world has been turned upside down by climate events in the past five years, as have the lives of many around the world. Perhaps that is what they meant.Sudden,abrupt changes in people's lives because of odd weather caused indirectly by the melting of the arctic ice. But the sadness and concern on the face of this being hinted at something more dire, something, that at this point, may be inevitable. | ||
| bean Senior Member Username: tina Post Number: 2266 Registered: 12-2001 |
Kathy, I personally think the the others that would exploit us if at all possible... DO. I think the non interferance mumbo jumbo is ..just that....mumbo jumbo Star Trek seriously gone wrong. I liken it to wittnessing someone getting mugged and raped in the park and doing NOTHING to stop it. What is up with that thinking? The White Hats have my expressed PERMISSION to intervene as needed. !! (Message edited by Tina on December 05, 2012) | ||
| animalspirits Senior Member Username: animalspiritstalstarcom Post Number: 10958 Registered: 10-2006 |
Kathy, Don't despair. The whole world will end. That said, the animals, plants, and everything else...except humans (most who still refuse the ascension)...will be fine. They have already begun their transition. Because, as humans who believe we are the more important, we are fighting this tooth and nail. It will happen and it will be glorious. Understand that all things are sacred--yet nothing is sacred. ~Yotee Coyote Website: www.ascendingabovevibration.org Blog: animalspirits--withoutfear.blogspot.com | ||
| enigmatic New member Username: enigmatic Post Number: 9 Registered: 7-2012 |
I have to wonder: why on earth would a visitor from another world take the trouble to point this out to an individual? I mean, what would be the point of doing so? | ||
| bidaabin Advanced Member Username: bidaabin Post Number: 436 Registered: 10-2010 |
Enigmatic- What Kathy describes has also happened to me. They did not show me polar ice caps however, they showed me an explosion that looked atomic. I wept terribly for the life on Earth and my visitor was by my side the entire time and I also felt love and concern emanating from him. I do not believe we are being exploited by anyone but other humans. There are only certain individuals that are open enough and advanced enough on a soul level to receive this information. Others would try to kill another being out of fear. This is my opinion as to individual contact. "The only enemy that mankind has ever had, is their devotion to ignorance.." Dr. Robert Ghost Wolf | ||
| enigmatic New member Username: enigmatic Post Number: 10 Registered: 7-2012 |
Again, their motivation for doing so is puzzling to me. It might be one thing if they were presenting these cataclysmic images to world leaders (heads of state, influential politicians, eminent scientists) who might be in a position to do something to prevent such cataclysms from occurring. But just showing them to average, ordinary individuals, who have little control over such matters, would seem to do little good. One might argue or suggest that they are indeed also showing such images to influential and powerful people, and we just don't ever hear about it. But even if so, it seems to be doing little good. And if it isn't a matter of warning us of merely potential dangers that might yet be averted if the world is somehow galvanized into action, but instead a warning of what is now already inevitable, then again, what's the point of sharing such grim and dire news, if nothing can be done about it? (Message edited by enigmatic on December 06, 2012) | ||
| man in Senior Member Username: thirdpal Post Number: 897 Registered: 1-2010 |
interesting, Robert Monroe claims there are two planets in our solar system that we can't see due to a dimensional veil. | ||
| susi Senior Member Username: etsi Post Number: 6434 Registered: 11-2009 |
well, here's my 2 cents... the mayans and my ancestors and other native peoples, say although there will be an increase and intensity of natural catastrophies which will definately cull many humans and animal life, the planet still will continue. mother earth is just cleansing herself. the population that survives will be spiritually evolving and learn to live more balanced lives. it's more detailed than that-but that's it in a nutshell. bottom line, whatever happens, there's nothing we can do. edgar cayce did say, our consciousness will determine though, whether the changes will be horrendous or gentle. when i look at how people over the world are acting, i suspect it won't be very gentle.  love life and life will love you back. -some wise cajun | ||
| animalspirits Senior Member Username: animalspiritstalstarcom Post Number: 10959 Registered: 10-2006 |
You are thinking with a human mind, not an alien one. Understand that all things are sacred--yet nothing is sacred. ~Yotee Coyote Website: www.ascendingabovevibration.org Blog: animalspirits--withoutfear.blogspot.com | ||
| susi Senior Member Username: etsi Post Number: 6435 Registered: 11-2009 |
that's right...i AM. love life and life will love you back. -some wise cajun | ||
| kathy decker Intermediate Member Username: fand Post Number: 186 Registered: 3-2011 |
The first thing I have to say is that I don't t know if we are being exploited or not.I have certainly had some frightening experiences so I know it is a possibility. The being that communicated to me "we cannot intervene" meant that there was nothing they could do.The climate change was inevitable at that point and there was nothing they could do to stop it. There may be other, more technical races that may know how to stop it but they also may be the ones who would exploit us and the earth. I do not believe the world will end. Our way of life will end and there may be a drastic reduction in populations of humans and animals, but I hope it will lead to a more balanced way of life, just as Susi says. Communication with these beings is done somehow through sympathetic spirit. Something in my spirit is in alignment with something in one of theirs.I am sure many have been shown these and other futures in this way.It is as though a dear friend of mine was privy to some information about something that was about to cause me distress and was warning me. Perhaps world leaders sympathies lie elsewhere, or maybe some have had a similar experience but do not discuss it.I certainly do not talk about it to anyone-only when I heard of Whitley and read his book did I have any idea that things like this happened to anyone else. Talking about this sort of thing could have had you committed to an asylum back then. I am still uncomfortable posting about it even in this forum and there is a great deal more I could share.We are incredibly complex beings capable of such greatness,yet I can see by what happened to Whitley that it is best to use the strange and amazing lessons I learned as guidelines for my spiritual growth and let others learn at their own pace. I chose to share this one visit out of many because the time is right. We also never know the greatness of the ones we come in touch with in our daily lives.Whitley has reached countless individuals through his writings and this forum is read by many who may be opened simply by seeing what is posted here. My message is this-be prepared for change. Use it to grow in spirit and open your mind to new ways of sharing and learning about love.If you do pass through these times safely use what you have learned to make things easier for others who are suffering.. We all go on.I know this as fact.This earth is a precious place of learning because we do interact with darker forces here.Be strong and live in light. | ||
| bean Senior Member Username: tina Post Number: 2267 Registered: 12-2001 |
Kathy...beautifully put. I do not think the whole world will end. My thinking and intuition FEELS continuation...albeit..slow and thoughtfull. Which is a good thing. imo I think WE have been interfered with on a cosmic level...some good, some harmful. If one adds to the mix, humans who have been influenced by "alien" thinking in a negative way..skued into thinking the demise of the human race is a necessary and agreeable answer to the problems of the universe....I would ask you....Is the CREATOR such a fool, that the promise of this human creation is.....not possible? The creators creation NOT viable? There have been many failures in creation...faliures lead to success BECAUSE LIFE IS INTELLIGENT. We will continue. | ||
| animalspirits Senior Member Username: animalspiritstalstarcom Post Number: 10960 Registered: 10-2006 |
Continuation does not necessarily mean continuing in the same form we are in now...be open to change of being and you will be fine. "We cannot intervene" does not necessarily mean that they can't intervene, but that intervention is not be best outcome for the human species as the change has already begun...it began a long time ago, prior to our current lifetime. Of course, if one is afraid of significant change, then it is going to be a very bumpy ride for that person. Understand that all things are sacred--yet nothing is sacred. ~Yotee Coyote Website: www.ascendingabovevibration.org Blog: animalspirits--withoutfear.blogspot.com | ||
| bean Senior Member Username: tina Post Number: 2268 Registered: 12-2001 |
"continuation does not necessarily mean..." I agree. However, I think the essence of what it is that has been conceived of... and created, will. In general, I think that significent change is difficult for all life forms. ALL are conscious, and subject to the need to adapt to circunmstances that challenge what they expect. The old addage...." The one thing you can count on is change," is true...imo. Preparing a self, recognizing the signals and adapting in what way is your nature, are/is what makes for a less bumpy ride. It is pointless to worry. ...( although I have certainly NOT mastered THAT dept!)...I do recogniize the pointlessness of it.... Find a way to be gracious, loving, generous, faithful, helpful, forgiving, friendly, etc....These things we can give in one way or another to all that strives to have life. What else is more important at this point? The world will eventually be as originally conceived...Despite the seeming odds.....despite our foolishness. What creator has brought together...will not be put asunder. ( I have to say that THAT is really strange of me to say....)..hey...I'm just the typer!!!! | ||
| Mama Shine Senior Member Username: mama_shine Post Number: 16218 Registered: 9-2006 |
 @ bean AS said: 'You are thinking with a human mind, not an alien one.' You say this as though it's a shame to be human. I don't understand this. I must create a system, or be enslaved by another man's. ~William Blake | ||
| animalspirits Senior Member Username: animalspiritstalstarcom Post Number: 10961 Registered: 10-2006 |
MS, No, that is not what I said. If you are communicating with an alien, you need to understand their perspective and allow for differences. If you don't understand what I meant, I can't help you with that as you are too caught up with being human. I never said it was a shame to be human...that is your perception, not mine. Understand that all things are sacred--yet nothing is sacred. ~Yotee Coyote Website: www.ascendingabovevibration.org Blog: animalspirits--withoutfear.blogspot.com | ||
| susi Senior Member Username: etsi Post Number: 6436 Registered: 11-2009 |
we are pure spirits in a physical shell. we are on mother earth to experience a physical path. we are responsible for our own choices, destiny and outcome. no help from aliens, angels, god or others. we alone. otherwise we will not have learned and grown and evolved spiritually on our own. having outside interference is cheating. we think like humans because we are human. that is our experience this time around. of course this is my personal belief.  love life and life will love you back. -some wise cajun | ||
| kathy decker Intermediate Member Username: fand Post Number: 187 Registered: 3-2011 |
Of course we think with human minds, and we react with human emotions. We live in human bodies here on earth, and use them as part of the growth process.This is why I was so devastated when these changes began for me and my family,despite the knowledge given me beforehand. The others,the alien or interdimensional beings, are also limited by their own physiology, as well as the reality they find themselves in.They are no more omnipotent than we are, and must also obey the laws of their planets /dimensions.Some have different technology than we do, and some are purely agrarian societies. I used to call myself a traveler.Maybe the beings I connected with are travelers also, but like myself,are only a small percentage of their race.Could be that is the soul connection that brought us together. The people who are here on earth are no more capable of intervening in changes that would take place on their planets /dimensions than they are of intervening on behalf of us, nor should we wish to.It is a learning and growth process for all of us. Susie is correct.We are pure spirits in a physical shell...and so are the others. | ||
| Mama Shine Senior Member Username: mama_shine Post Number: 16224 Registered: 9-2006 |
Tears came to my eyes when I read what susi wrote as I saw my grandmother in my minds eye. ~~~ 'we are pure spirits in a physical shell. we are on mother earth to experience a physical path. we are responsible for our own choices, destiny and outcome. no help from aliens, angels, god or others. we alone. otherwise we will not have learned and grown and evolved spiritually on our own. having outside interference is cheating. we think like humans because we are human. that is our experience this time around. of course this is my personal belief.' ~~~ Then I heard this bit from another old song she used to sing to me. 'Well, you got to walk that lonesome valley You got to walk it by yourselves Nobody else can walk it for you You got to walk it by yourselves.' I must create a system, or be enslaved by another man's. ~William Blake | ||
| susi Senior Member Username: etsi Post Number: 6441 Registered: 11-2009 |
mama my dad used to sing that when i was little. love life and life will love you back. -some wise cajun | ||
| kathy decker Intermediate Member Username: fand Post Number: 189 Registered: 3-2011 |
I think help is available to us-in the forms of angels, prayers, the creator and other spiritual means. I have asked for help on many occasions. I worked on an Alzheimer's and dementia unit in a nursing home, and I try to help others as much as I can. Of course we should give aid and accept it whenever possible. I just never got the impression that any of the other beings I interacted with were able to help us with our problems here on earth, any more than I could help them on their home planet/dimension.They are not omnipotent but mortal just as we are. | ||
| bean Senior Member Username: tina Post Number: 2271 Registered: 12-2001 |
I deleted my above post. Too long! Will try again later. | ||
| enigmatic New member Username: enigmatic Post Number: 11 Registered: 7-2012 |
Kathy, was there any hint of a time frame, or of the direct contributing cause(s), or of precisely how this "ending" might unfold, or of any other more specific details, when this ominous statement was conveyed to you? | ||
| bean Senior Member Username: tina Post Number: 2273 Registered: 12-2001 |
Well, I guess the point I wanted to make has made a circle in regards to todays news. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTH? | ||
| kathy decker Intermediate Member Username: fand Post Number: 192 Registered: 3-2011 |
Enigmatic, no, no time frame other than it had already begun.The message was conveyed without words, a knowing transpired between us that it was happening.And it is..the ice is melting.I did not see what the effect would be..only the knowledge that the world I was accustomed to would end. Sorry..that is all there is. | ||
| enigmatic New member Username: enigmatic Post Number: 13 Registered: 7-2012 |
Okay, thanks. I'd also be interested (as would many others here, I suspect) in hearing about any other sorts of related messages you might have received at other times, if any. | ||
| blue Senior Member Username: jennyblue Post Number: 1319 Registered: 3-2007 |
I had a very vivid and intense dream several years back in which I saw the earth splitting into 2 earths and separating (kinda like pulling apart from one another). Kinda like fission of a cell. In the dream, one earth was vibrant and alive and the other earth was gray and reminded me of a husk. The gray earth just kinda fell away from the vibrant earth. (Message edited by jennyblue on December 24, 2012) We are the ones we've been waiting for. Hopi Elders 2001. to be a rock and still to roll . . . change we can believe in is here -- The Ed Show Love is the Way ~ Jesus of Nazareth | ||
| kathy decker Advanced Member Username: fand Post Number: 213 Registered: 3-2011 |
As I look at the choices we are making here on Earth, I do wonder that perhaps we are creating our own hell. In War of the Worlds (the movie) the alien invaders actually went about changing the environment in a particularly hideous manner. We were given a beautiful planet, with wondrous creatures to enjoy, and could have created hobbit-like villages in an agrarian society, being one with the Earth instead of setting ourselves against it. Instead, in our greed and hostility, we chose to try to beat this paradise, this Garden of Eden, into an industrial abbatoir. Maybe in the future mankind will learn to inhabit the planet, instead of trying to conquor it. Then the gray husk of the old will fall away, allowing the vibrance of the true Earth to shine through. One can only hope. I know it is possible tor I have visited a world where harmony reigns, a green world. | ||
| bidaabin Advanced Member Username: bidaabin Post Number: 470 Registered: 10-2010 |
Kathy- We have people here on this planet that know how to live in harmony with our beautiful planet. They are called Indigenous and are being exterminated at this minute in many places including the Amazon rainforest. If you want to live in harmony with the planet and have clean water and land for future generations look into the Idle No More Movement. The Indigenous of both the US and Canada are fighting hard to protect our future generations. We welcome anyone whom loves the Earth to join us. "The only enemy that mankind has ever had, is their devotion to ignorance.." Dr. Robert Ghost Wolf | ||
| kathy decker Advanced Member Username: fand Post Number: 227 Registered: 3-2011 |
I am familiar with the Idle No More Movement. Unfortunately, those who insist on ruining our home have a different agenda.I fear it will take an event of enormous consequence to bring the problem to the attention of the world population. The Indigenous will always be with us, indeed, I believe they are "the meek "who will inherit the earth. Whitley has recently brought up the subject of the earth being a prison. I do not know anything about that, but I do believe it is possible that events here are being dictated by another race whose plan is to gain control through the manipulation of our resources. | ||
| Buddie Senior Member Username: buddie Post Number: 5886 Registered: 3-2008 |
I cant blame you | ||
| Mark A. Foster Junior Member Username: markfoster Post Number: 60 Registered: 2-2013 |
Angels, whether departed souls or transterrestrials, have been warning us about these Earth changes for decades - including through contact experiences and crop circles. IMHO, the world we have all known here is about to end. However, what lies on the other side for this planet will be much, much better. Mark | ||
| bidaabin Senior Member Username: bidaabin Post Number: 507 Registered: 10-2010 |
Kathy- I agree with Whitley. Not that it is a prison being run by the ET's, more that our collective failure to respect each other and our planet will keep us from joining the galactic family. How in the hell can we expect to be allowed to leave this planet and colonize another when the people whom would be able to go would be of the military-industrial mindset that would seek to conquer and make money? If we ruin this planet, do you really think we should be allowed to leave it only to destroy another? Indigenous people around the globe know how to live with our Mother Earth. I cannot stress enough that non-Indians should not feel threatened by IDLE NO MORE as we are doing this for the next 7 generations of all people. The Earth sustains everyone and we all need her equally. "The only enemy that mankind has ever had, is their devotion to ignorance.." Dr. Robert Ghost Wolf | ||
| Sharon2 Senior Member Username: sharon2468 Post Number: 4730 Registered: 8-2004 |
Some people on earth can be... creative, kind, empathetic, wonderful and amazing! Others can be.... greedy, selfish, obnoxious, attention seeking, morons. The kind people of the world need to speak out and become pro-active. So the obnoxious people will not continue to call the shots! "The empty vessel makes the loudest noise" Our life is determined by the choices we make! | ||
| kathy decker Advanced Member Username: fand Post Number: 275 Registered: 3-2011 |
I certainly agree! | ||
| Jeff Moore Junior Member Username: ahriman Post Number: 72 Registered: 5-2004 |
Please have a look at this link: http://www.transients.info/p/webbot.html Here is discussed what's come to be known as the Global Coastal Event that is, according to the predictions, due to manifest within days from now. This will be the beginning of major earth change due to high energy solar emission. I generally take such things with a grain of salt, but in this case I'm not so sure. Clif High (pseudonym) developed predictive software to track markets but later found that other more interesting data was being generated from the enormous amounts of information his webbots were combing through. This led to the website Half Past Human, where he has been presenting reports for years now, based on the information culled from datastreams on the internet. Download his two recent installments (mp3) and take a listen. "Transients.info" (not associated with Clif High) seems to be an unofficial clearing house for all things GCE. It all appears pretty ominous, especially as more and more corroborating information from a variety of sources trickles in. And, just to make it more interesting, he has confirmed this information with the services of two professional remote viewing groups. There is a detailed description of the predictive methodology to be found there. (Message edited by ahriman on May 16, 2013) I came, I saw, I left. | ||
| Mark A. Foster Advanced Member Username: markfoster Post Number: 225 Registered: 2-2013 |
Jeff: Either way, this will likely be the end of Clif High's work. If it happens, which I personally doubt, then the world will be a different place. People will have a lot more to do than pay attention to the Web Bot. If it doesn't happen, I suspect that most of Clif High's audience will look elsewhere. High says that he may or may not release another wujo (MP3) this weekend. He is now also predicting what he calls "solar tiger days" between now and the end of the month. As he says on the main page of his website, "So sorry to report": www.halfpasthuman.com/ Cheers, Mark Portal to 29 domains: http://www.markfoster.net Radio Show: http://www.markalanfoster.com | ||
| Mark A. Foster Advanced Member Username: markfoster Post Number: 226 Registered: 2-2013 |
Jeff: In both cases the corroborations came from Courtney Brown's Farsight group. In the second case, Brown used some remote viewers in Hawaii after Clif High "commissioned" the work. IMO, it is really impossible for we humans to predict the future. Countless people have made apocalyptic statements. None have panned out. As I see it, all that exists in the future, from a human perspective, is a sea of probabilities. Therefore, any change at all (and there are constant changes) will result in a different outcome. Cheers, Mark Portal to 29 domains: http://www.markfoster.net Radio Show: http://www.markalanfoster.com | ||
| Jeff Moore Junior Member Username: ahriman Post Number: 73 Registered: 5-2004 |
Thanks Mark. You have made a salient observation in that whatever the outcome, this will most likely the end of Clif High's prognosticating. I believe he made that prediction for himself as well. It doesn't seem he's done it for the money, in any case. As far as not being able to predict the future, many people throughout history have received premonitions about events that did ultimately occur. I guess this isn't the same thing as making a prediction, though. (Message edited by ahriman on May 17, 2013) I came, I saw, I left. | ||
| Mark A. Foster Advanced Member Username: markfoster Post Number: 229 Registered: 2-2013 |
Jeff: Yep. Here is his newest wujo (just released): http://www.halfpasthuman.com/wujo/clifswujo5172013quavers.mp3 Cheers, Mark Portal to 29 domains: http://www.markfoster.net Radio Show: http://www.markalanfoster.com |
